I like divisions because that is what forms rivalries… last conference to discuss pods just became the pac 6
2 Likes
I like it.
I like Danny Cougar’s idea.
Gives us lots of local, drivable conference rivalries.
1 Like
Somewhat but still not as specialized to each school as you can be.
For instance, Houston’s protected rivals could be Tech, UCF and Cincy. Tech’s could be Houston, OK State, Baylor.
The B1G does a modified version of this called “Flex Protect Plus”
If we go to 16 team conference with a 9 conference game sched I’d like to see 3 protected annual rivals. That would allow a team to play through the entire conference at least once every 2 years and home and away every 4 years.
1 Like
I vote to divorce the idea that we are permanently tethered to two teams we shared a conference with once… geography makes sense
4 Likes
I would assume that each of the West Coast teams would have the other three as their protected rivals.
Hopefully they’ll leave Illinois’ alone. That looks around right to me, though that Ohio State rivalry is a bit lopsided.
It’s about scheduling balance and making everybody play each other more regularly. Under your 2 division setup, Colorado and the rest of the “West” teams will only go away to Florida once every 8 years and go to Texas every other year. That’s not gonna work for them or any those other teams for them to build the Florida and Texas recruiting pipelines they want. A protect plus format that allows everyone to play everyone home and away every 4 years means all those schools will be coming to Texas every year and going to Florida at least once.
1 Like
Thats what conference championships are for, Deon gotta earn it. OR how UT used to always schedule Tech. Make Deon happy and give him UCF protected. I feel not rolling out the red carpet for any coach might be the move, if so lets roll it out for Dana. i.e. the east division would be murder’s row
I ask coog fans this question, interested to hear the response.
Do yal want to cut yals teeth in the conference that spit on you for years, or do you want your experience to be visiting new scenary along the Rocky Mountains/booking vacations around football season?
1 Like
Has nothing to do with Deion or rolling out the red carpet for a specific coach or anyone. It’s about protecting the obvious rivalries and maximizing matchups outside of those that whoever shakes out to be top dogs aren’t locked away from each other once every 4 years outside of Champ game appearances.
Teams in a conference should play all other teams in the conference as many times possible imo. In a 12 team conference like the original B12, everyone played everybody else at least twice every 4 years. And we can do the same in a 16 team conference.
Not really.
Permanent rivals do not have to be the same within each set of 4.
With a 9 game schedule, each team could have 3 permanent rivals and split 6 games of the remaining 12.
For example, TCU could have Baylor, BYU and Tech while UH would get Baylor, Tech and UCF
Similar but BYU and TCU have history and UH and UCF have overlap while both still get BU and Tech.
edit: Olutrain clarified it well already.
1 Like
Given where things have been trending, the Big12 might be a geographical home run.
Hopefully not, we’d be on the wrong side of the line for teams we’d actually enjoy playing.
Probably won’t have divisions or pods, but if so I would go with these pods:
Mountain
BYU
Utah
Arizona
Arizona State
Central
Colorado
Oklahoma State
Kansas
Kansas State
Southwest or Texas
UH
Tech
Baylor
TCU
East
Cincinnati
WVU
ISU
UCF
Very possible we’d go east and ISU would be in a central/Plains pod. Oklahoma State and Colorado and probably a few others will want to be aligned with Texas schools.
2 Likes
I could live with that.
As I said, keep the TX schools together.
3 Likes
I do like that not everyone got the same number of protected rivals (big 10 model). I just dont want us glued to ucf tech and cinici, anybody but them.
Im sure usc and ucla will feel the same way about oregon and wash
For travel purposes, perhaps east-west instead?
1 Like
The B1G is weird because they’re trying to protect so many “trophy games”.
I get not wanting those team but it’ll be decided by higher powers and I’m sure our admin will get a say so prepare yourself. They are going to want the 2 TX publics to play yearly and we will get 1 of Cincy or UCF I’m sure and would be shocked if we didn’t. The third is up in the air.
Playing around with a permanent rivals situation, while not perfect, a starting point. Assuming all 4 corners.
With 16 teams, you can have 3 permanent rivals and play 6 or the remaining 12 teams each year. Now to apply that to basketball, that would be a home and home with each of the 3 rivals and once against the other 12 for an 18 game conference schedule in basketball.
I generally tried to get 2 of 3 close for each of the schools and not break up any historical rivalry games. I also tried to avoid complete east west distance, ie no Utah-WVU. Also old SWC got two old SWC and old Big 8 got 2 old Big 8.
UH - Tech, BU, UCF
Tech - UH, TCU, Colorado
TCU - Tech, BU, Az St
BU - UH, TCU, BYU
Az - Az St, Utah, Ok St
Az St - AZ, TCU, BYU
Utah - BYU, Az, ISU
BYU - Utah, BU, Az St
Col - Tech, ISU, K St
Ok St - Kan, ISU, Az
Kan - Ok St, K St, Cincy
K St - Kan, Col, WVU
ISU - Col, Ok St, Utah
Cincy - WVU, UCF, Kan
WVU - Cincy, K St, UCF
UCF - UH, Cincy, WVU
If it was and 8 game conference schedule for football, just 1 permanent rival:
UH-Tech, BU-TCU
Az-Az St, BYU, Utah
Col-Ok St, Kan-K St
WVU-Cincy, ISU-UCF
Obviously not perfect, but interesting.
3 Likes