After listening to Sampson’s presser after the UCF game today, I had to ask this.
Do we still appreciate 20 wins in a season, or do we now expect it?
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I appreciate every win but cannot say that for many. I know a day will come soon when wins like this will be scarce. That’s why I don’t get into who needs to improve and blah. We have achieved lot more then we deserve. And for that I am eternally grateful.
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Both.
As someone who has seen decades of mediocrity and worse, i soak in every win, and then always look around Fertitta and smile, because our bad days now are never really bad.
But because of what has been built, I expect the wins. That’s respect for the coaching staff and programs, not entitlement.
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I’m an every “W” is precious kind of guy. And I appreciate going to the tourney every year. Everything else to me is just icing and blessing.
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We do, but 30 wins is now seemingly our new benchmark!
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Winning 20+ games is a successful season. 30 wins is being spoiled beyond measure.
That being said, I look forward to the possibility of a lot more UH wins. At this point in time, UH fans are truly blessed.
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I think we still appreciate 20 wins, it’s just that the bar has been raised. In most seasons, 20 wins is still a really solid accomplishment but with Sampson’s consistency, it now feels more like the expectation than the ceiling. Appreciate it, yes, but the standard is clearly higher now.
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100%. Shoot, I still stress out watching them when we are up by 32. I just assume I will blink and we will be playing conference games against east Carolina in front of 400 half asleep fans eating stale popcorn and getting free parking.
1984 fans probably never thought that could happen as welll.
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I think everyone who remembers just how bad we were for 20 years appreciates 20 wins. Anyone who wasn’t around for even Dickey probably appreciates it less because they just don’t have that reference point of where the basketball team came from.
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Not trying to say the two are connected but the recent rumor that UH has fallen behind Arizona and Alabama for Caleb Holt may have some merit.
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I remember being one of about 100 people in the building when I went to school there in the mid-90’s, and honestly I might not have been there if my girlfriend wasn’t in one of the spirit organizations. I appreciate every second of every win, these are the golden years, and as long at it lasts I’m going to savor it.
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And not sure if he addressed this directly, but for a program as successful as UH has been lately, every seat in a ~7000 seat arena would be full at many other schools. There were large bald patches last night, I assume that’s what triggered his comments.
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I don’t think empty seats was part of the conversation, but who knows what was in his head that he didn’t say.
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The poor talk wouldn’t happen mid way through conference play if it was about this season.
Good question. I honestly forgot that “20 win season” was a thing.
Further proof that I’m getting spoiled. This too shall pass, hopefully not.
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Well Kelvin knows better that anyone that he’s losing two of his four best players at season’s end. When you’re a re-load program you have to engineer high-end freshmen and I guess they are expensive
Coogs getting 20 wins? Yes, I’m very happy with our return to greatness.
But as a metric, 20 wins ain’t what it used to be.
Back in the 60s & 70s, seasons were shorter and 20 wins meant winning +70% of your games.
Nowadays, getting to 20 wins might mean only winning 60% of your games.
Here’s Grok’s analysis (it’s AI, take with a grain of salt)
Back around fifty or sixty years ago, in the nineteen sixties and seventies, twenty wins was a real mark of an elite team. Schedules were shorter, often twenty-five to twenty-eight games total, so hitting twenty meant winning seventy to eighty percent of your games. Elite squads like UCLA under John Wooden regularly went twenty-eight to thirty wins with few losses, but only a handful of teams cracked twenty each year.
Fast forward to today, teams play thirty to thirty-five games in a normal season—sometimes more with tournaments—and the benchmark’s shifted. You can hit twenty with just fifty-eight to sixty percent wins, which is solid but not dominant. It’s way more common now.
From historical looks, like old records and articles, in the sixties, maybe ten to fifteen teams a year got to twenty wins across all Division I. By the seventies, it crept up a bit with expansion. Now, in recent seasons, especially post two thousand, it’s often thirty-plus teams hitting twenty or more, sometimes closer to forty in strong years.
For example, elite teams in the sixties—like UCLA’s championship runs—averaged twenty-eight to thirty wins, but with shorter schedules. Top programs today, like Kansas or Gonzaga in their streaks, rack up twenty-five to thirty-five wins routinely.
The extra games, more teams in Division I, and easier non-conference scheduling have diluted it. Twenty wins gets you postseason consideration, but elite status now means twenty-five plus, deep tournament runs, or high winning percentage.
So, yeah, it’s not the badge it used to be—more of a baseline for good teams rather than great ones.
https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5LWNvcHk_eb5636b4-e708-4984-a4cb-1921ab5ceff0
Based on recent seasons, approximately 30-35% of NCAA Division I men’s basketball teams (roughly 100-120 teams out of ~350+) reach the 20-win mark, a benchmark that has become less exclusive due to increased schedules. Elite programs like Kansas, Kentucky, and Duke consistently exceed this, often maintaining decades-long streaks of 20-win seasons, as noted in Wikipedia sources,.
- Context: While 20 wins is often considered a “good” season, it requires a winning percentage of roughly 58% to 65% depending on the total games played.
- Consistency: Programs with 20+ wins for over 30 consecutive seasons exist, but this is rare, with elite teams like North Carolina, Kansas, and Kentucky often topping the charts.
- Trend: As schedules have grown, reaching 20 wins is more common now than in past decades. [1, 2, 3, 4]
For the most up-to-date, specific percentage for a single season, you would need to count the teams in that season’s final standings, as the total number of D1 teams fluctuates. [5]
AI responses may include mistakes.
[1] 20 wins — no longer a college hoops benchmark – Deseret News
[5] How Many Division 1 Basketball Teams Are There? (2025)
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So, while it is more common these days, still it is only 30% of the teams that reach that mark so I’d say it is still special - even if more common now than it was in the past.
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Every year, I hope for a 30 win minimum season and a Final Four. Between CGVL and CKS, a 30 win season was only a pipe dream.
Thanks to Coach Sampson, 30 wins has become the new UH paradigm of success.
How times have changed. We’ve become the new team to beat. If you look at history, the team that beat UH in the FF, went on to win the NC.
Thanks to CKS, the upper tier national competition now realize the road to the FF goes through UH, and once there, the road to the NC goes through UH.
Last year the Coogs finished 35-5 meaning a 36 win season would have brought us the coveted NC.
FWIW, as much as I love 30 wins, I’m now thinking 36-40, or however many wins to take us to the promised land.
Book ‘em, Danno.
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So if not 20 wins cause season is longer, is 25 wins the new barometer for schools now?
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