Was a NO BRAINER for them to dump their $8 million payout in the AAC to join the ACC.
They just won’t receive tier one $$ for 9 years but it NEVER was offered to them!
BTW- SMU will make more in their first 2 years in the ACC than we will in our first 2 in the Big 12 ($18 million per year) but I think we get a full share when the new TV deal kicks in during year 3.
I can only imagine what could have been if the SEC had accepted our similar offer back when uncle Dave proposed it to them.
Wont matter when we get fsu and clemson and they lose everything
I have a feeling SMU is going to kick some butt in the ACC
I don’t like it, but I wouldn’t be shocked by it
Not seeing it.
Couldn’t beat a 6-6 ACC team or a 5-7 Big 12 team with their best team in 40 years.
As for this money, compare that to what other power conference teams will make over that same period.
Once you do….you definitely will NOT want to be SMU.
but that’s it…if ONLY FSU & Clemson leave, not only does the ACC survive but SMU, and the others, split the likely $300 million combined exit fees those two schools will pay.
Part of me thinks the ACC is daring FSU + Clemson to leave because they get rid of trouble makers and split their huge exit fees.
That would be very similar to the current Big 12 situation. Get rid of the arrogant members and build a more collective type of conference.
TBD.
If the courts find fraud, they might not even have to pay that.
Don’t jump to any conclusions until those cases are resolved.
Did UH beat that 5-7 Big 12 team at home? How did SMU do against the team Willie Fritz coached?
For a team like FSU, Is this $20M on top of the $30M or so that SMU isn’t getting? So is FSU currently getting $50M per year?
that’s a moot point because they WILL make the ACCN $$ + the donations + their part of the exit fees from FSU + Clemson + Bonus $$ for performance in football/ basketball and then in year ten they are FULL ACC members and make their TV share on top of that!
It’s on top which is why i keep saying no ACC school will make a lateral move to the Big 12 especially if ONLY 2-4 schools leave.
Why would they leave more money on the table to go to a lateral conference to make less money???
Only Big 12 fans think they will raid the ACC.
ACC fans think the opposite.
Add up how much less they’ll be making than other P4 members over that ten year period.
It’s probably in the hundreds of millions of dollars.
As I said, wouldn’t want to be them, and I am glad we are not.
The problem with this formula:
Truthfully speaking, we will know more about the fate of the ACC come February 2025, and regardless of that clause within the ESPN contract, it unlikely the conference survives as a Power/Autonomy conference passed 2030, which is when the next wave of media deals come up for both the Big 12 and Big Ten.
I highly doubt FSU and Clemson are in the ACC beyond 2027.
they were NEVER offered that money so they had to take the best deal they could which is STILL BETTER THAN STAYING IN THE ACC!
Again, I’ll spell it out
Option 1
$8 million x 9 years = $72 million
Option 2
$20 million (if constant) x 9 years for AACN= $180 million + $150 million (fundraising, as of today which will be MORE) + Bonus ACC $$ + share of FSU/Clemson $$ if/when they leave.
for the billionth time…you keep saying the ACC isn’t valuable, with
Miami
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Duke
Louisville
Georgia Tech
PITT
but the nucleus of these 8 WERE VALUABLE without Texas/Oklahoma???
Baylor
Texas Tech
TCU
Oklahoma State
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
West Virginia
Seems like the Core 9 nucleus brands left in the ACC are more valuable brands to me??
Those brands arent staying together and the reason we did is because we brought stability.
You keep comparing the ACC and Big 12 when their circumstances are apples to oranges.
UNC and UVA are without a doubt, targets for the SEC (or UNC-B1G if the logistics make sense); however, I see the 2 in the SEC.
Outside of those 4 schools, no I don’t put the ACC as valuable as the Big 12 because the biggest issue with the ACC is that they have only 1 media partner.
The Big 12 has 2 media partners. That’s the difference. It also is the reason why it makes more sense for the Big 12 to grab schools from the ACC because it’s the Big 12 who has more upwards potential.
The ACC is capped, and there’s no reason for ESPN to ever agree to pay the ACC any more than what they do now because the contract runs through 2036 (hence the lawsuits)
and when does the Big 12 media deal end?
2030, which means they are going to enter the market way before the ACC, which is another reason for schools in the ACC to jump to the Big 12.
The ACC and Big 12 media payouts roughly equal out around 2029, but the ACC doesn’t go back into the market until 2036 (by that point, FSU/Clemson/UNC/UVA will already be out of the conference)
by 2036, SMU/ CAL/ Stanford will have become full members with a decade of brand building behind them and the ACC most likely would have added 2-4 more schools.
While I don’t think this is likely but the eastern Big 12 schools could be targets (WVU, UCF, UC) in an attempt to increase their deal in the early/mid 2030s.
There is DEFINITELY a path for the ACC to survive, and thrive, if only a group of some, or all, of FSU/Clemson/UNC/ UVA leave
Don’t understand all the whining about SMU. They are making more money than if they stayed in the ACC and are getting better exposure and recruiting will go up.
Why do people think they should have stayed in the AAC for their what $8 million per year?
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