FSU Starting Process to Leave ACC

It goes on to RIP ON the ACC for taking schools (Califord and SMU) that the Big 12 didn’t want, and which lack, according to the lawsuit “Tier 1 media football appeal” (see paragraph 112) simply to try and hold the conference together.

It then goes on to RIP ON the ACC for picking those schools OVER two schools (Oregon State and Washington State), that would have been better in terms of their Tier 1 media football appeal, over their screaming objections.

It then cites Florida Statutes calling the withdrawal penalties in place an illegal restraint on trade or commerce that prevent FSU from receiving its full market value and opportunities for its student athletes.

the total engineering research AND DEVELOPMENT funding for FSU in 2022 was 58,212,000

for FAMU it was 5,752,000…so FSU is getting the bulk of the research dollars in that partnership

but that is not an overly impressive number for FSU compared to AAU members and their life sciences 67,760,000 is not high compared to AAU members either

by comparison USF was 203,592,000 in life sciences and 50,859,000 in engineering

one needs to again understand that “development” is included in those numbers as well…the AAU will lean towards baseline knowledge vs the output of new products and uses in most cases

So there was consideration? FSU counsel undercutting the lawsuit claims…

Do we consider FSU the UT equivalent of the ACC or does that title go to Clemson or North Carolina?

FSU = UT
Clemson = OU
North Carolina = Kansas?

There is no UT equivalent any in conference outside of the B1G if you’re talking academics, athletics and budget

Closest in the ACC would be UNC

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No it isn’t, and that is my point. And yes, USF as an institution is far better. Most people who go to FSU go to party, and that is a fact. That is what my former associate was telling me; it is a running joke in FL that FSU stands for, “Falling Short U”, “Failed School U”, “Football School U”, or my personal favorite and the old school one, “Free Shoes U”.

Now I will say, at one point, the same things were said about Arizona State, and it just got into the AAU, so anything is possible. Of course, compared to FSU, ASU may as well be Harvard. It got $673M in R&D funding in 2020 alone. It is also a leader in R&D for the DoD, DoE and Genetics. FSU is none of those things.

Honestly, the next school up for AAU entry is probably Va Tech.

Hmm? I would go with UNC. FSU is the new neighbor with new money. They are the Al Czervik of the ACC.

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no what isn’t…those are the engineering (and life sciences) numbers for FSU, FAMU, and USF

so while FSU and FAMU share an engineering program FSU gets credit for the bulk of the engineering research dollars

the life sciences numbers for ASU are 141,306,000 and engineering are 192,681,000

this as compared to Arizona 471,046 ,000 and 84,682,000

nowhere did I imply that FSU is close to getting into the AAU I just stated they have an engineering program and it is productive in research with the bulk of the credit for that going to FSU not FAMU

This is great. SMU gets drugged through the mud by FSU.

https://x.com/Brewenor/status/1738242958271332828?s=20

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lol

SMU addition to ACC.

FSU: “There goes the neighborhood.”

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They’ll still have close to 50…FIFTY!! Power 2 Teams that will be far superior than the 6# Power 5 teams now.

By comparison, the NFL has only 32 teams and they seem to be just fine with advertising dollars

https://twitter.com/alisonposey14/status/1738244475221078491?t=ntV0ti3huzVa4zY2QPDxwA

This is going to be a messy divorce.

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Wow.

So the ACC now filed a suit against FSU in North Carolina!

It’s gonna git FUGLY!!!

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OMG! What was the ACC commish thinking when negotiating with ESPN. And I thought PAC 12 admins were bad.

https://x.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/1738218765681082608?s=20

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FSU claims that the ACC negotiated that without telling the ACC members that ESPN could unilaterally cut off the money after 2027.

ANOTHER reason why FSU (and every other ACC school) should be pissed!

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SMU fans won’t recover from this lol




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I never said you implied anything. It was more in response to others that said they were. FSU is not close to getting into the AAU. So we agree.

I know we all like to crap on SMU, but outside of SMU and Clemson, what teams in the ACC are really that much better than SMU at this moment? I think some of these schools are living in the past.

Regardless of who wins the lawsuits the ACC is done as a power conference.

The relationship between ACC and FSU is irreparably damaged now and the toothpaste will never go back in the tube. Only question now is how difficult or expensive it will be for the rest of the teams to bounce.

Im no lawyer, but I think the ACC crumbles quickly at this point and the other teams will exit with relatively little difficulty.

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