UH received its Tier 1 status in 2011, Texas Tech in 2015, Baylor in 2021, and SMU. 2025. If my math is correct, UH has the longest period of time being a premier research institution of the four. That ought to account for something.
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Slippery slopeā¦
There are many R1 institutions that have much higher research spending than UH. That would mean UH is as undeserving then.
BYU recently announced a Medical School and decided to check some boxes to get R1. They have supporters to bridge a change in funding if needed now too.
Do I think BYU will get called up? Who cares. Screw the B1G and SEC. Ride or die with the Big 12.
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I mean, sure, if you think that all that matters is a label and not the actual facts behind the thing.
The point is that we are at least four times more deserving than SMU, research budget wise.
They donāt want you. They donāt want anyone in the Big 12. UNC, and Notre Dame are all they really want.
Buy into rocking the world with the island of misfit toys, or stand outside looking into the window of the B1G and SEC and miss out on all the fun.
If joining them is all you want then the path to good Fandom is the same. The Big 12 getting so good that itās worth gutting is all you have. Ask TCU and Utah about the Mountain West Conference days.
Iāve started to hate the B1G and SEC. Iād rather see BYU become a thorn in their side.
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As someone whoās been to a lot of games across a lot of leagues, the Big 12 is more fun than the SEC anyway. The SECās just too much for me. Thereās a threshold somewhere around the 60k seat mark where it starts feeling like the relationship between the school and the football team gets inverted ā that is, I get the sense that Auburn and Texas and A&M are Football teams that have a school attached, rather than schools that have a Football team. I hate that.
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"all seven Pac-12 football stadiums have naming-right deals while
only two of the MWās nine football stadiums have naming-rights deals, and one of those is the Raidersā stadium and shouldnāt count.
With menās basketball, two Pac-12 arenas have naming-rights deals while three do in the MW. "
The point being that there is a stated threshold to be designated R1. IF a school crosses it, then they are R1. Whether you think it is undeserved or not is irrelevant unless you are on the committee giving the designation. Does not matter if one school spends 4X more or not, they are both over the defining threshold.
Those were fun seasons watching the three teams via for the title and trying to break into top games/bowls.
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If the minimum wasnāt good enough, then there wouldnāt be a minimum, of course.
But itās just like making a 60 on a test and passing with a D isnāt as impressive as making a 90.
SMU made a 60.
Youāre right. But itās like the old joke, āwhat do you call the student who graduated last in medical school? Doctor.ā
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The point is they are equal to us in the following
- we are both P4 schools
- we are both R1 schools
They are ahead of us in football, with # of playoff appearances but we are ahead of them in deep NCAA runs in basketball.
Winning the 17 school ACC, and in year 1, is not small feat.
Yeah, it would have been really impressive if theyād have done that.
Given that they couldnāt beat the THIRD best Big 12 team at home, no one else is as impressed with them as you are.
And yes, they made a 60.
We are comparing them to UH, TCU & TT for a possible Texas B1G Ten spot.
IF they expand, im thinking they only take one of us
Given how small SMUās sports brand is, and that they are FAR from AAU, they are not even close to being a B1G candidate.
To even talk about them as a B1G candidate in the face of that, is LAUGHABLE Bro.
Hey listen. Iām not saying that any of those other schools are candidates either, because they are NOT.
None of them are AAU, one is R2, and even Tech with 60K per game attendance may not be a big enough football brand.
But as the smallest sports brand and second weakest research brand, to even bring up SMU as a B1G candidate is a joke.
Even UH is a bigger sports brand, and does FOUR TIMES the research, and UH isnāt in the conversation either, so come off this SMU nonsense.
here, we throw every option on the table so we are prepared. Iām surprised you are so narrow minded about since YOU keep on saying the ACC will inevitably blow up.
I do think it might, but it wonāt be until 2036 and it could possibly lead to the final realignment with is two 24 school conferences divided into 2 regionally manageable 12 school divisions to reduce travel costs and increase regional rivalry.
YOUR premise is that the P2 will only take 2-4, sooner than later, and it will be so devastating to the mid tier brands in the ACC that the rest will come begging to the Big 12 to build a monster tweener conferenceā¦ 
Iām not saying it is 100% a certainty that a 24 school B1G Ten will include a new Texas school but IF that is a possibilityā¦we ALWAYS need to identify our competition and make sure we are taking the steps to be the MOST attractive option.
Surprised the resistance is coming from an alum of a school that was TOTALLY CAUGHT OFFGUARD by the SWC break up.
Letās not let history repeat itselfā¦prepare JUST IN CASE the winds blow in that direction so YES, I am always evaluating our odds vs our Texas P4 peersā¦and SMU just took another step to be in the mix.
If the B1G ever added a TX school, it would be because, as was the case with the Big 12, aTm decided that it didnāt like being under UTās thumb again, and broke for the B1G.
Otherwiseā¦.donāt put money on it.
Only UT and aTm give the B1G what they want: AAU membership, combined with a big enough football brand to add value.
The schools you mentioned? Not close.
SMU least of all.
Sorry, but it is what it is.
Those schools arenāt even in the conversation.
Iām not putting money on itā¦iām just tracking it as a possible outcome IF the winds blow in that direction.
In fact, Iām ALSO not putting putting money on the ACC blowing anytime before 2036 only desperate Big 12 fan boys think that will happen
You need to have more faith in the growth potential of the University of Houston- 2036 is 11+ years away. That is a lifetime away in terms of ho far we can grow with P4 resources.
We should be a top 10, Bucket #2, NIL school by 2036