I’m definitely not tracking a possible movement of small brand non-AAU schools like those to the B1G.
I suppose anything could change in the future.
But unless and until one of those schools becomes AAU, and a bigger (in UH and SMU’s cases, MUCH bigger) football brand, I’m not tracking any to the B1G as possibilities.
And given how far SMU would be from being both AAU and a big enough football brand, that’s the least plausible of all.
Great post. We do have to enjoy what we have now which is good.
I know… you’re tracking Big 12 fan boy type rumors…lol
2036 is a LONG way away and you have no idea the strength potential of the B1G, SEC and certain Big 12 members BY 2026…when the ACC TV deal expires
Don’t put money on SMU.
And unless and until something radically changes, don’t put it on Houston either.
For the billionth time…
I don’t think the ACC will break up so obviously I don’t think the P2 will get to 2 x 24 BUT if in 2036, IF there is a Armageddon scenario, I sure hope we’ve used those 12 years, from entry in the Big 12, to prepare to be the MOST attractive Texas Big 12/ACC option…that is IT!
I am starting from the Goal and working back to the steps needed to secure that goal.
There was a time when UH to the Big 12 was just as laughable of an option as UH to the B1G TEN.
HERE WE ARE!
If you disagree, then, you should probably join another fan forum
I don’t think UH to the Big 12 was ever a laughable option.
In fact, I always thought that if UH went to a power conference, it would be the Big 12.
I actually expected it in 2016 after we beat Oklahoma. Unfortunately, it took UT and OU leaving…and a strong political push from Abbott and Patrick to make it happen years later.
But the B1G, no.
Of the power conferences, that’s the one that I always thought that UH was LEAST likely to ever join.
Still do!
SMU endowment is 2x of UH. $2.12B vs $1.05B.
It’s about even once the new state university fund (which is worth over a billion) is figured in.
Tech is already doing that. Not sure why we aren’t.
Not sure which rock you’ve been living under, since the break up of the SWC???
It most DEFINITELY was a laughable option for the majority of that time, even as recently as late 2016 from OUR GUY, himself:
# Tilman Fertitta calls Big 12’s expansion vetting process ‘a sham’
Back in 2015-2016, the Big 12 was considering expansion, and most talking heads, based upon our 2015 Top Ten finish, and 2016 opening win over OU, considered UH to be the front runner.
Didn’t happen of course, but I certainly wasn’t living under a rock, given that.
Of course, it didn’t happen until years later, but if you ever thought that any power conference other than the Big 12 was the most likely destination for UH, then YOU were living under a rock.
And if you ever thought that the B1G was even a likely destination for UH, much less a more likely one than the Big 12…then you weren’t merely living under a rock…you were living under a BOULDER…possibly under an AVALANCHE.
The B1G was never a possibility. Still isn’t, realistically speaking, given our non-AAU status and small brand size.
I realize that some fool years ago posted that he had “heard” that UH was being “vetted” by the B1G, but that was a lie, of course. We were farther from AAU then than now, and everyone with half a brain knows that the B1G never even sniffed, much less “vetted” any school other than ND (which is NOW AAU) that wasn’t AAU. Of course, when that guy was asked who he had heard that from, and what “vetting” consisted of, he was unable to provide an answer, so anyone with half a brain safely and correctly dismissed that.
To this day, that’s one of the three great “realignment lies” of coogfans.com.
you said UH to the Big 12 was NEVER considered a Joke…you are just wrong on that.
Up until the day UT left, UH to the Big 12 WAS a pipe dream, at best.
And for the “exact” words from Tilman Fertitta’s mouth , he used the word SHAM to describe the 2016 expansion search
The definition of the word SHAM, is:
CASE CLOSED…due to overwhelming evidence that UH was NEVER a serious Big 12 expansion candidate UNTIL UT/OU announced they were leaving…that is a FACT!
We were certainly one of the schools that was considered in 2015-2016.
The Big 12 decided against expansion when they learned that the CFP people would let them get by without 12 teams, and that staying at 10 teams was OK.
A Big XII with 5 Texas schools was never realistically going to happen.
so you are calling Tilman, who was 100% locked in on the process, a liar?
Because he thinks it was all a sham…a dog and pony show…a front for UT to squeeze more money out of ESPN.
I believe Tilman, over you
Not calling him a liar, because he expressed his OPINION, which isn’t a fact, nor is it subject to a truth/lie inquiry.
Opinions can vary.
He has his opinion, I have mine.
And I differ with him on that. I think that the Big 12, believing that the CFP would have a problem with 10 teams, legitimately considered expansion, with UH in the mix; hence our presentation to the Big 12 at that time, together with BYU and other schools, but decided against expansion once they knew 10 teams would be fine.
Doesn’t make the inquiry a sham. That they chose a different path simply reflects changed circumstances. There was no need to expand once they knew that 10 teams wouldn’t hurt them, so the inquiry into expansion, while legit at the time, became an unnecessary and was ceased.
Obviously…a mere 8 teams would hurt…so expansion was back on the table at that point.
OTOH, if you were ever of the OPINION that UH joining the B1G…or really any other power conference besides the Big 12 was a realistic possibility…then I’d sure like to know what you were basing that opinion on, because we sure as Hell never made a formal presentation to any other power conference post-SWC in the same way that we did to the Big 12, nor was there any serious interest expressed by any other power conference for UH until the time the Big 12 finally took us.
With all due respect…you two get in a death-spiral so often…even after declaring “case closed” only to open it up yet again. It goes on sometimes for months!
No doubt, I prefer an open forum to be …open, but seriously, threads get ruined when such a death-spiral kicks in for you guys.
So I propose the following guideline…
If in any thread, when you 2 posters have a 1-on-1 series of posts to each other that reaches 5 posts each from you alone…i suggest…
that condition will be recognized (by you two) and be labeled a “death spiral”…by you yourselves!
once that is reached… instead of flooding all others with your uncontrolled back and forth, that you instead either simply refrain for a day maybe…OR… create a new thread named accordingly (ie “Death Spiral - Future realignment”).
in such a separate thread (i.e. “get a room” you two can spiral away…churning out your repeating arguments a billion times to each other there)…leaving value in the original thread to others. The rest of us can choose to go there (to the death spiral spinoff thread) if we want knowing you two will be overhelming there.
I honestly don’t wish to put either of you on ignore, because you each make countless valued posts.
But the death-spiral mode is not ideal for many of us when it takes over like it often does.
Just a thought. If nothing else…maybe do AT LEAST that first bulleted item above. Recognize it and then CHOOSE to use restraint.
Oh I got it.
It’s just that from the beginning, the guy wanted us in the PAC, saying it was more stable, and better, and the Big 12 worse and less stable, and the OPPOSITE proved to be true.
Now he thinks that the B1G might come get us, even though we know the B1G doesn’t invite non-AAU schools and small brands (even Washington and Oregon could only get invites at 1/2 shares).
And he still believes that SMU is in a better position than we are, even though they are playing in a conference for zero media shares, in a conference that people are suing/plotting to get out of.
Not sure why he won’t back down on stuff like that, but hey…somebody needs to set him straight, right?
yes, had the PAC move happened (and we were one of the 4-6), there would be LESS schools in the P4 today and SMU would have NEVER gotten in. it would have been an MORE exclusive club , not less.
That is a FACT, hence the hope it broke that way for us. The PAC HAD the kill shot…they just didn’t take it.
You continue to live in a fantasy world devoid of any creativity…like most lawyers
That PAC move was never a possibility, given that the PAC had already said no to LARGER BRAND Big 12 schools.
So get that impossible idea out of your head.
Yes, the PAC didn’t take the kill shot, and according to several sources, the reason they didn’t take it, is because certain schools were already plotting to leave, and called the shot off.
Given that…don’t go saying that the PAC was more stable.
In any event, the kill shot NEVER included UH. The proposal was to add larger brand R1 Big 12 schools, NOT UH. Would SMU have made a P4 at that point? Probably not. But don’t assume that that would have gotten us in, because that proposed kill shot DID NOT include UH, so don’t assume that it would have been better for us had the PAC taken said shot. They would have invited the four largest Big 12 brands…AND THAT’S IT.
NOT UH, which was neither in the Big 12, nor a part of the proposal.
Don’t believe a tweet from Fort Worth that says that the PAC was considering UH and TCU. The PAC NEVER considered R2 schools or religious schools. If they did, then they’d invite BYU. So you can dismiss any rumor involving TCU. And given that they had said no to larger Big 12 brands, they sure as Hell weren’t going to say yes to a G5 brands like UH.
So you should have dismissed that rumor outright, as any smart person that knows the PAC in its previous form would have…AND DID…as both impossible and implausible.
There’s a difference between imagination and fantasy/make-believe. Many of your ideas are implausible fantasy and make-believe.
Lawyers, of course, don’t deal in those. We deal in FACTS…AND THOSE ARE THE FACTS!!!
well…your scenario played out…SMU is now not only in the P4, they are ahead of us.
Congratulations to YOU!
I still favored a route that placed/kept Baylor, West Virginia State, possibly other B12 schools, SMU, BYU, UCF & Cincinnati in the G5 permanently!
All things equal, those other Big 12 castaways, except for Kansas, were NOT better options for the PAC than the large Public school in Houston.
It’s your same argument why you think the ACC castaways have no value.
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