The bigger question is whether those schools will want to give up big time football and go there.
Not seeing any doing that willingly.
I’ve always said that some ACC teams will join the Big 12, but others will remain behind in a diminished ACC that will still play football, but which will not be regarded as a power conference.
What do people say about the huge buyouts that FSU and Clemson would have to pay the ACC? OU and UT fees have helped the Big 12 surviving schools. Huge exit fees weren’t an issue with the Pac12.
Can second this. When I lived in the DMV, I saw more coverage for Va Tech and JMU than UVA. UVA’s athletics are pretty minor league. They think of themselves as the “Lost Ivy” more than a public university. You know, Thomas Jefferson and all that.
I lived in Arlington for years; did two stints at the Pentagon.
The DC media definitely gives Maryland, and Georgetown athletics more attention than UVa athletics.
That said…their academic/institutional profile fits the B1G, and their geographic location fits the SEC. That’s why, as I said, they remain in the realignment conversation for the P2.
No question and I completely agree. UVA would never voluntarily associate itself with the SEC unless it had no other choice.
The way Duke, UVA and UNC people talk about the SEC would shock people. Duke is basically just a bunch of people from the Northeast who could not get into the Ivy League so that is to be expected.
UVA and to a lesser extent UNC have always viewed themselves differently than other Southern Universities. If you ask most Virginians today, they don’t even view VA as a Southern state. That is why the term “Mid-Atlantic” was created. North Carolina and thus UNC is moving that direction. UVA and UNC were some of the first Southern Universities to integrate (1950 and 1951). They both officially desegregated in 1955.
One surprising thing is how hard it is to get into Northwestern and Duke. It’s about the same as non-HYP Ivies and probably harder than Cornell except for engineering.
Having gone to a MAC Game, they are actually fun to watch. TBH, Miami U has more fans at their games in their small stadium than we did back when I was at UH.