Future Realignment Thread

It would alienate more than 2/3.

There are 134 teams in I-FBS.

The current 34 P2 teams, if they broke away, would alienate the fans of about 3/4 of them.

Even a 48 team P2 breakaway would only satisfy the fans of about 35% of those teams.

Would still alienate about 65%.

And as I mentioned, the last thing the P2 would do if they ever broke away would be to add more parasites.

To get to 48, they’d have to add several more.

Any P2 breakaway would be unlikely, but if it did happen, would involve 40-41 teams max.

The P’s are already alienating the non P’s law. We all know that too well.

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Yeah yeah.

And the Ute people also think that they’re going to the B1G.

:roll_eyes:

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Utah has always been against the Big 12. They only came over because their only other option at that moment was a PAC-5 with Calford and the Oregon St/Washington St schools.

All I think it is worth is a bunch of bulletin board material and hope of them finishing mid-pack this fall in the Big 12.

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gross

Does it say anything about them wanting to join the current lawsuits to get out of the ACC?

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Please, please, please let Utah to the ACC be true…

Addition by subtraction.

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Man I sure hope they live up to the preseason predictions of Utah winning the championship, don’t slip

lol

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After the B12 offered Utah a lifeline, Utah showed its appreciation by looking for a better deal. I have a feeling they are going to be a problem child…

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Unfortunately Utah still has leverage given they aren’t subject to the same bylaws as the other 4 corner schools

It’s easier for Utah to leave the conference

I just find it hilarious that the Big 12 rainbow pumpers “automatically” think the ACC will crumble and “beg” for a life raft from the Big 12 just because Florida State and Clemson leave.

There still is a viable path for A) the ACC to raid the Big 12 to demote them to G# status after 2031 or B) hold court as an equal to the Big 12 as a tweener M2.

Say they lose FSU + Clemson but add Utah, Cincinnati, West Virginia & UCF…then what?

Because the value of the ACC’s media deal will reduce significantly even when factoring inflation, and any jump from the Big 12 to the ACC (post-FSU/Clemson) is a lateral move at best. We wouldn’t know because the ACC doesn’t even have a media rights deal for the 2027-2037 period, and that’s WITH FSU and Clemson still technically in the conference

It would make sense for schools to jump to the ACC from the Big 12 if both FSU and Clemson stay, but there’s really no indication that either school wants to remain in the ACC otherwise they wouldn’t be going through all this legal trouble

If it’s Utah’s goal to be in the Big 10, then it makes more sense to just wait out the remainder of the Big 12 conference instead of being forced into a GOR that doesn’t expire until 2036

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Again…I REPEAT the question. Then how did the Big 12 lose 2 brands BIGGER than FSU & Clemson and INCREASED their payouts, per school?

Even if FSU & Clemson leave, they still have football games vs Notre Dame, North Carolina State, Miami, Virginia/ VT, North Carolina, Louisville, etc. Which are BETER than the hateful Eight the Big 12 was left with.

Add Utah, WVU, UCF, & Cincinnati and the ACC > Big 12 from a media $$ standpoint

Because the original Big 12 deal was negotiated around the same time that the original ACC deal was negotiated, which was a completely different media deal landscape

You’re also forgetting that ESPN is a sole partner with the ACC while ESPN & FOX both partner with the Big 12.

ESPN is not going to dish out $50 Million a piece to Wake Forest, Syracuse and Boston College.

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You know that for a fact?

Again, im in the camp that either one of two scenarios will happen

  1. the P2 cherry picks 2-6 schools from the ACC or Big 12 and BOTH the ACC and Big 12 remain intact but are delegated to an obvious tweener status - M2. The Big 12’s shocking haircut will come in 2031 after the ACC takes it’s medicine in 2027. They already did this to the PAC.

  2. the P2 will raid the pieces of the ACC then move the pieces "under further consideration " to the Big 12 and then complete their 2 × 24 upper tier 2 conference league around 2031.

Those not included in the Elite 48 will be G level and have no resources to keep up

I don’t understand why you’re so gung ho about this two megaconference scenario. It doesn’t even make any sense financially.

There are literally zero schools in the Big 12 that are worth expanding with for the Power 2 except for MAYBE Utah or Kansas.

The ACC currently has 4 of the most valuable schools remaining outside of the Power 2 (FSU, Clemson, UNC & Notre Dame)

By the time FSU, Clemson and UNC are in the Power 2, then that most likely marks the end of realignment until both the SEC and B1G essentially get so powerful that they become their own football league seperate from NCAA, or they start relegating the teams they no longer deem valuable (such as Rutgers and Vanderbilt)

ESPN and FOX are not going to pay close to $100 Million Dollars for current Big 12 schools, and the Power 2 schools are not going to agree to add universities just to dilute the revenue they get

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