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Can Tucker be the next Lance McCullers?

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He doesn’t have a good enough flow to compete.

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This season, Alvarez is hitting .237 at MMP, and .356 on the road.

If he hits at home like he does on the road, then he’s clearly on track to be the AL MVP and the Astros aren’t struggling in their fight to win the West.

He’s been married long enough…perhaps getting away from wife and kids appeals to him.

Just kidding.

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The next Mike Trout……but not for his bat.

We don’t know what’s wrong with Tucker, so it would be prudent for fans to give him the benefit of doubt until we learn the extent of the injury.

The real issue is that the Astros are not saying anything and it’s evolving into an extremely disingenuous decision by management towards the fan base.

What is it?

If it’s a blood clot, then let the fans know.

If the injury is a stress fracture, then let the fans know.

If he’s going to be out for the season, then let the fans know.

If the silence is due to a contractual issue that doesn’t allow full disclosure, it doesn’t bode well for Tucker because fans don’t like being kept in the dark due to a legality.

The real problem is any attempt to hide the extent of the injury will cause the fan base to create their own conspiracy theory, just like I did just now.

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I’ll restate my philosophy on this. The Astros don’t owe me any information on Tucker. They don’t need to tell me the gravity of the injury or the length of recovery. The same goes for Urquidy, McCullers, JV, and Graveman.

Conversely, I don’t owe them anything out of the ATM for future games when my family and I are all free for a game or other form of entertainment. You see, my money doesn’t mix well with Aledmys Diaz, Cabbage, and McCormick.

281 out!

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I would think teams should be forced to be completely transparent on injuries given how much money is wagered on sports.

Tucker’s injury would have an impact on the odds of the Astros winning the WS. So by not being transparent that means some people have impactful insider information that they can use to better their odds.

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Who knows what is going on with Tucker. If it is something serious (stress fracture, blood clot etc), the Astros have to know this, and with the possibility of him being out for the rest of the season you’d think they would have done everything they could to bring in another bat at the deadline (but they didn’t).

So by not making a trade is it reasonable to think that it isn’t a serios issue (stress fracture, blood clot etc)?

I thought I read three weeks ago that he was running on the treadmill? If he had a stress fracture in his shin why in the world would he be doing that until it was healed?

This entire thing is crazy.

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I am just spitballing but I think the issue is the Astros are not in agreement with Tucker and his people on the seriousness and timetable for return.

I “think” Tucker isn’t willing to play unless he is 100% (whatever that means).

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I can’t imagine any mlb starter being 100%.

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I can’t either but it wouldn’t shock me if someone wants to get paid for resting up.

I think Tucker is a good ball player. I have always felt that there are guys whose stats don’t necessarily translate into wins on the same level, i think Tucker is one of those guys. Bregman has less stats but more of an impact on winning. .

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He has been in the cage, long toss, running, shagging balls and partaking in pre-game.

This is 100% being drivin by him and his agent.
I have absolutely no reason to give the guy the benefit of the doubt at this point.
Some may disagree and that’s okay.
I can tell you in talking to fellow coaches both, HS and college they all think the agent told him to slow play this.
The Astros pissed him off in arbitration ( but they had a right to not cave after the end of last season and his performance/attitude)

Dana is clearly not happy and biting his tongue.

Nobody is going to convince me he could not be on the field right now.

And I know some of you are taking a much softer stance….and that’s fine, I respect yalls opinion.

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But why do think he is doing this now?

What do you mean by this? I think if we have Tucker, we probably have 3-5 more wins because his bat would have probably impacted those games where the offense was non existent.

Nah. Teams shouldn’t have to disclose anything so that people can better their personal bets on games. My opinion.

They do it in the NFL every week.

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There’s definitely something else at play here and the past Arbitration issue going against him could certainly be it.

I just wonder how much this may potentially cost him in terms of $$ once he’s a FA after next season? It’s got to be in the mind of some GM who will be considering making him a long-term deal. Either

  1. sitting out for months on an injury that should’ve kept him out a way shorter amount of time thus leaving your team short handed in a battle to make the playoffs.
    *Is he a prima donna?
    *Will he potentially do this again to us?

  2. If this was about the Arbitration going against him, what other BS might he pull against us? Is he all about himself, and if so, what he’s done here with the Astros is pretty vindictive.

  3. He’s obviously shown that it’s all about him and has no problem letting his teammates, the organization and the fans down. Is he worth that type of mega deal investment??

The way it appears now does he even get back on the field before Sept 1st? And if it is late Aug or early Sept there’s a good chance he’s rusty and remember he’s known for slow starts and missing that much time it will be just like coming out of spring training.

If anything it’s definitely shown he’s not worth the huge financial deal he’ll be seeking once he’s a FA (not that they were really ever considering offering him a 8+ yr deal).

One more thing.
If he is pulling this BS, they should have traded for another bat, and then after this season trade his ass!!

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Here’s my question. Has there ever been a trade of a superstar while on the IL?

I don’t think a player who is on the 60-day IL is even eligible to be traded. Trading other injured players required the Commissioner’s permission, I believe.

I don’t know of any top players who were traded while on the IL, which makes sense when you think about how much that would devalue them. Brown would probably have given up more prospects to trade Tucker.

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It’s the prolonged injury that devalues them. Not the trade. We don’t know. In Crane and Little Enos’ mind Tucker might be finished.

Anyway, teams have a physical so, unless they cancelled it they probably wouldn’t do it. (The other team)

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