Understand . . . . . Baptists don’t have s*x standing up, someone might see them and think they are dancing . . . . . From experience, many liquor stores have a “back window” where the vehicle is not visible from the street, called the Baptist Window . . . . .
Catholics don’t have a problem with alcohol and dancing. A quick run to the confessional will take premarital sex off your permanent record.
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No religion can keep you from drinking or doing anything else you want. My point is why belittle certain congregations?
Bottom line is most Christians live or suppose to live by what the Holy Bible says.
My dad was very Baptist and he drank beers every once in awhile.
Not going to judge anyone who drinks or don’t for whatever reason
Belittle Congregations?
Because it is one of the Pillars of THEIR OWN FAITH!!
It never amazes me how little Christians know about Christianity,
- the 400 year political battle to form "Christianity’ after Jesus’ sacrifice and the DOZENS of groups that believed it should be something different (spoiler: the Proto Orthodoxs won that battle and control over what “the bible” would become)
- the reasons why the Protestant Reformation splintered “Christianity” into a hundred different denominations including the ones that really highlighted JOHN THE BAPTIST, as Jesus human mentor, and why abstaining for Alcohol was so important to those teachings.
- Some go even a step further and BAN ALL substances that could alter your emotional state (alcohol, drugs, caffeine, even medication)
Plus, it amazes me how clueless the majority of Christians are to the Abrahamic religion Tree- Judaism (pre-Jesus) , Christianity (life and teachings of Jesus) and Islam (post Jesus, the prophet) and how they ALL came from the same origin God, God of Abraham.
Back to the point, not drinking alcohol is VERY IMPORTANT to the faith of many Christian denominations…it’s why Baptist Texas was so late to rid itself of the “Dry” slogan which still exists in some counties.
If you don’t believe me- go try to but a Beer at a HEB on Sunday morning before noon…tell me what happens!
This a way deeper discussion than alcohol/ no alcohol.
HEB sold NO alcoholic beverages until after Howard Butt died. (1991) My grandfather was a buddy and his Doctor of his for a number of years in Harlingen and later in Corpus Christi. When my grandfather was dying in the 50’s Howard brought him a tv for his hospital room I was told. This was at a time when many families did not even own a tv.
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Looks like the moved it to 10 AM (after the morning service).
I worked at a grocery store in the early 2000s and we would have to lock the beer fridge until noon, on Sundays.
Interesting theory.
Then why would Jesus a) reportedly miraculously make wine at the wedding feast at Cana (John 4: 46-54), drink wine at the last supper, and b) eat fish after his reported resurrection? (Luke 24: 42-45).
Apparently he was cool with both drinking…and eating meat, unlike John the Baptist who reportedly lived on locusts and wild honey (2 Kings 1.8; Matt. 3.1–5; Mark 1.4–6).
Not sure about so called “Christian” denominations not following Christ’s lead in those matters, but hey, freedom of religion is nearly absolute…and freedom of conscience is definitely absolute!!!
Not by the Catholics or Orthodoxs…they serve wine at mass they are ok with alcohol consumption.
Jesus attempted to model himself after John the Baptist, who did not partake in alcohol so that denomination attempted to model themselves after Jesus’ mentor.
The denominations had to distinguish themselves and I know the Ana Baptists/baptists were radical sects of Protestantism and they eventually got ran out of Europe and were forced to form their nucleus in…Texas
The HEAVILY linked themselves to John the Baptists and his adult baptism of Jesus. Compare that to the others ( Catholics/Orthodoxs, Church of England, etc.) that believe in fact Baptism to cleanse a newborn child of original sin.
Baptist Drayotn McLane considered banning Alcohol Sales sales in the Astrodome, for Astros games…then he was handed the profit margin…but Capitalism beat his Religion…lol
Baylor HAD to ban Alcohol in Baylor games…they are the “Notre Dame” of their Religion
So rather than being a point of reason and discussion you elected to put down and shame those who may not know the history .
Quote: Baylor HAD to ban Alcohol in Baylor games…they are the “Notre Dame” of their Religion.
I think that Wake Forest would challenge for that title.
It is cool that UH has alcohol at games. That’s been the case my entire life, though I remember one year during my childhood, I was at a UH game at the Dome, and UH was playing Baylor. My Dad asked for a beer at concessions, and was told there was no beer, and then it dawned on my Dad and he said, jokingly, “aw, that’s right, we’re playing Baylor, that’s all right, when the Horns come in here we’ll drink 'em out of the house!”
Does anyone else here remember the Dome not serving liquor when Baylor came to play?
For some reason that stood out to me as a childhood memory.
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no. I’m honoring THEIR beliefs…obviously you have no idea how many literally risked their lives to distinguish themselves based on their denomination’s beliefs and you are poo pooing it as nothing.
Christianity is in a world of trouble if its own members don’t even know what they stand for
I believe the tradition of baptizing a baby is based on the high infant mortality rate in the past. You wouldn’t want your baby die and go to hell would you? Catholics get around this by have an adult confirmation, since babies could do it when they got baptized.
Worst football thread ever.
I remember them not serving beer at one Baylor game. I believe it was either 1987 or 1989.
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It was about us being trendsetters nothing more or less.
The Bible has many more references to not eating pork than anything else, I don’t see anyone advocating for a ban on that.
That would be the time frame I am referring to.
1987 sounds right to me, but I can’t exactly recall the year. During my HS days.
Went to KSU game last year, they have a party deck that sells beer, but you cannot take it out of the party deck, which has no visible field access. Half time was packed, they do have TV’s if you want to stay in the stadium and drink and not watch live.
All the more reason not to go there.
BOTH “A” and “C”