I know, but it would be interesting to see the private school demographic and how the applicants to UT vs A&M vs UH compare
I’m sure UT still wins that battle by a mile, given a good amount of private school kids go to out-of-state schools with UT being the “fallback”
Gotcha. My completely anecdotal experience would say in the 90s you’re absolutely right. Most would be UT. Now, I’m not so sure. I’ve seen a lot of peoples kids going out of state to all sorts of places whereas their parents all went to UT mainly or at least for a semester or two. Just a lot more variety or more kids wanting to leave the state than used to.
Outside of Business and Engineering/CompSci, UT ranks pretty average, maybe slightly above average nationwide. I assume most of the private school kids get into at-least 1 of those as they are competing with out-of-state high school grads for those programs specifically
Not that hard to get into the other UT programs, but yeah schools such as Kinkaid see a lot of kids going to the Ivys, mini ivys, public ivys and ivy adjacents schools
Privates have the same admissions standards as anyone else to UT. Probably harder to be in the top whatever percent you have to be at a private too.
That’s true but the application pool is a lot wider for private
A school like Cy Fair High School is going to see the majority of applications to public schools such as UT, A&M and UH. Perhaps some the other truck stops such as SFA and Texas State are in that mix, but yes it’s easier to rank higher in public schools because there’s less investment in their children’s education as compared to a school like Kinkaid.
Kinkaid has a much more competitive student demographic, but the applicant pool has a wider range of universities that includes Rice, SMU, TCU and numerous out-of-state schools
I went to public school with a graduation class of about 800 kids. We had one student go to an Ivy League, and that’s mainly because they were a legacy (both siblings went to ivies). Was actually friends with this student too, very humble down to earth guy, not rich
The enrollment yield for Tech and TX State must be really low from the Houston area.
The #1 college for Plano Senior High? Collin (Community) College
No one from Kinkaid HS attended TX State, Ole Miss or Alabama but they did have graduates attend TX Tech, Arkansas, LSU and OU as well as five of the Ivy League (minus Harvard, Princeton and Dartmouth), plus Duke, Rice, Northwestern, UVA, Stanford, USC and Vandy.
I don’t think TX State is that low for Houston public high school grads, but Tech is probably low.
With the rise of UH in recent years along with its upwards trajectory, there’s just no real reason for a Houston high school grad to attend Tech unless it’s because of a scholarship.
UH has already surpassed Tech in rankings, and UH is in prime location for the med center, Wall Street banks, major accounting firms and law firms. However, we lack in engineering/CompSci opportunities which are heavily concentrated in Austin or San Francisco (unless you include O&G, but O&G is a declining industry)
I honestly believe that UH is a threat to a lot of Texas schools, especially A&M. UH’s biggest problem is its commuter label which is still fairly active. If Houston can get more freshmen/sophomore to live on or near campus , then we can truly become a big time university in Texas that competes with UT / A&M both academically and socially.
UH still heavily depends on community college transfers, and we lack the housing for a robust freshmen/sophomore experience comparable to UT/A&M.
By year 3/junior year, most kids are over the “campus life” phase, but that’s where a lot of students are coming in unfortunately
Its the admissions application availability. Every school has online application now, so it’s easy to apply to any school. And they do. I have kids in college now so I went through the application process and these kids all applied to dozens of schools. Most were even free.
As a St. John’s grad, here is how it works with UH and elite private schools.
VERY FEW SJS grads attend UH straight out of SJS. Only one in my graduating class did. Most SJS classes have 0-3 students attend UH straight out of HS, and for those that do, it’s usually the UH Honors College.
Tech generally gets 0-2 per year.
That said, FAR MORE SJS grads end up FINISHING at UH. It’s more common for someone to start school elsewhere, and then finish up their Bachelor’s degree at UH. I’d say at least 5-10 members of every SJS class start out somewhere else but end up coming back home and finishing at UH.
And of course, the law school at UH is a popular choice for SJS grads; I’m one of four members of my SJS class that become UH Law Center alums. Best selling chick-lit novelist Katherine Center (nee Pannill), also a member of my class at SJS ('90), went to Vassar for her BA, but got her MFA in Creative Writing at UH. Another girl in my class got her M.Arch at UH. Katherine Pannill Center’s younger sister, Lizzie Pannill Fletcher, three years behind us at SJS, is now, of course, a US Congresswoman out of Houston that you may have heard of.
aTm generally gets only a handful of SJS grads each year, mostly people that get into various Honors programs there.
For whatever reason, aTm and UH simply don’t have the sort of snob appeal needed to attract many SJS applicants right out of HS. Why does UT? Who knows!
NOW THEN…
UT used to be BY FAR the most popular choice for SJS grads. In the old days, it was common for anywhere from 1/4 to 1/3 of each SJS class to attend UT-Austin, with at least a handful going there for either Plan II Honors, Engineering Honors, etc.
That changed when the Top 10% rule was put in place. Instead of being a “safety” school for most SJS grads, as it had been in the past, it suddenly become a “reach” school, given that only the Top 10% were now guaranteed admission…and it’s VERY hard to become Top 10% at SJS. SJS Top 10% are usually headed to the Ivy League, MIT, or elite East Coast Liberal Arts Colleges like Williams, Amherst, Wellesley, etc. For someone in the SJS Top 10%, state universities are generally an afterthought, other than maybe UVa (which is a popular choice for SJS grads).
So while UT used to get 30-40 SJS grads per year in each class…it now gets more like 8-12 per year.
I’m not sure if this has changed, but back in the day, SJS would send transcripts to EIGHT colleges, so most students applied to that many schools. Whether they had a chance of getting in or not, many applied to an Ivy, or near Ivy as a first choice, some other privates, and then usually UT (or more rarely aTm) as a “safety” school.
Again, that has probably changed somewhat now with the 10% rule at Texas public universities.
I think it depends on the school too
Yale or Colgate history majors have just the same if not higher chance of getting those prestigious Wall Street jobs than a UT-McCombs grad would
However, a UT-History major has zero chance of getting any finance job
I hadn’t thought of that as yes it is easier to apply than doing paper applications. Still it is notable that so many are choosing to go to those schools and not just applying as options.
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