How UTSA run blocks

I have been watching the game, stopping the plays to see what they do and what we do.

UH, in the first half ran the RB from deep. The blocking for every play was helmet on a helmet of the closest guy to the run side of the play. It allowed edge rushers and OLBs to blow up a lot of plays at the line. Tough sledding, 3 yards and a cloud of dust blocking.
No pitches, options, or jet sweeps. We had one reverse where tackle took off downfield and let the DL get Manjack for a loss.

UTSA schemed the run blocking. They would line up power to the left side. UH would shift the line to cover it. Then they would pull the guard/tackle and trap our DL, then use the TE or HB lined up in the backfield to kick out our LB. Then it was Barnes versus our safety.
Almost all their big gains were on schemed blicking. They did not do well when they went helmet on helmet either. They did that about 4 or 5 times in the first half.

Their blocking schemes for the run are very creative. Gets the D off balance based on how their O lined up.

We passed well when we needed to. And Smith was tough. Will be interesting watching changes moving forward.

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Such an oversimplification of our run scheme last night. What you all call “innovative offense” is 15 years old now. Real innovation right now is what Lincoln Riley is doing, and btw Dana has integrated it too. RPO is the name of the game and it all happens before and at the snap. Line was slow off the ball ill give you that, but you’re missing so much of what this offense is because its determined before the snap. Jet sweeps are not a foundation of an offense. Its a play you run a handful of times a year, and as you pointed out we ran a reverse. If your claim is we were getting blown up inside you sure as hell dont want to run a pitch or sweep lol.

Also the missed block on the reverse wasnt pat paul’s responsibility. Hes an unblocked man. The hope is he chases the play down too hard on the initial hand off and thats what creates the opportunity for the reverse, over pursuit. He stayed to his fundamentals, and pat paul did his best to block his guy, come off and set an edge for the reverse, but that wasnt his assignment

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There is no way for me to oversimplify the run blocking scheme. EVERY play involved taking the helmet over your helmet. I watched frame by frame. Every time the same.
Even when they had uncovered people on the line (near the edge) we would run it right into them.
Let’s say the uTSA scheme has been around ten years. They executed the pulls and traps very well. Go frame by frame and you can see it set up perfectly almost every time. You know who is going to get blocked. And the scheme doesn’t require holding blocks for any time. Pulling linemen are hitting our guys in the side.

We never executed traps and rarely pulled anyone. Maybe later in the second half. But I did not watch the last half of Q4 frame by frame.

:roll_eyes: I actually played in Naghavi’s run scheme at Katy, I also played D1 ball in an RPO system. I promise you I know what Im talking about. I also watched the game back… weird, is this a pull in the 2nd half? I saw pulls plenty, by the TE, Tackle, and guard.
But you’re clearly the expert so I wont waste any more breath :+1:t3:


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Our run game was non-existent.

After rewatching the game, I think it can be fixed. Really does look to be execution.

Glad to see it took almost half a game to pull a lineman. Gues I will have to go back and find them all. It’s just difficult to pay attention when it happens that infrequently. But good find.

:sleeping::sleeping::sleeping:. Keep sounding like you have no idea what you’re talking about​:+1:t3:. Suits you well

They pulled Patrick Paul so much the FS1 commentators, who /never/ talk OL play, were commenting on how good he was at it…

I have complaints about the run blocking, and mostly in the execution of it, but saying they went hat for hat is just not accurate…

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CDH’s post-game comments were something to the effect of, “they played three very big DL using three technique most of the game, which made between tackles running very difficult.”
Translation: “expect more of that from future opponents.”

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Thank you, I won’t say that they never ended up just hat on hat because they had trouble moving some guys, or… and this one happened a lot, were slow off the ball and let DL cross their face, but to say that was the goal is just stupid. The interior of Naghavi’s run scheme works a lot of combo blocks, but in order to execute those the interior needs to quick off the ball, have a great first 2 steps. The goal is for example to get the guard to pass off the 3 tech to the center and the climb to the backer.
an adjustment I’m sure they are talking about to their guys this week is what happens if you get beat across face?
the answer is turn that into a hook block and basically have the Guard set an edge. Center or whoever was supposed to take over the block needs to climb and find the other’s responsibility. Ideally we just don’t get beat across face, but the point is there is so much going on in this run scheme. Its a lot to take in, and a lot that these guys have not been asked to do previously. You can rep this stuff in practice all you want, but its different to see live bullets. At this point I remain optimistic that the O-line will get much better as the year goes on. I believe this, because I saw lots of things that were issues last year for the line get fixed over the off season. the guys played with much better footwork, and fundamentals in the run game, guards covered up backers when they did get to the second level.
As the game slows down, and they speed up I like what this can be.

Also while I’m at it here is another thing about the comment on, “well I didn’t see this play ran.”
The way teams treat play books is not like madden where every play is available at any point. The off season and camp you spend installing different parts of the play book. i.e. inside zone, then certain passing concepts, then your RPO plays, etc.
But in the season the team’s analysts look ahead and are evaluating what teams do well and don’t do well, and begin putting together a preliminary game plan. The night and day after a game the coaches start looking at the tape for the next opponent, and start putting together the call sheet. Every staff handles this differently, but its really a list of like 10 or 20 plays that the team will have available for the coming week’s game.
If Monday is the team’s day off then Tuesday will be install day where you go over the game plan, and Wednesday and Thursday are the days to rep these plays. You call these plays from different formations, which changes execution and assignments, but thats really it. SO does UH have sweeps and tosses in their play book? I’m sure they do. but it clearly wasn’t part of the gameplan against UTSA. You can debate whether or not it should have been, but its not a play calling issue.

there are plenty of fair criticisms of this team, and the O-line from the game, but to say that the game plan was “3 yards and a cloud of dust” is just a miss

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For those that are curious about the run scheme and want to know a little more about whats going on, I will break down the first play of the game, as it actually looked really solid, and almost popped for big yards. And I expect this to be a foundational call of this offense.
Pre snap we have have 11 personnel (1 RB,1TE) TE lined up to the left, and play going to the left. At Katy we would have called this something like Queen left, 43 base. Its a simple inside zone run.
Left to right the assignments are as follows.
TE is working up immediately, looking for probably the safety, but if that corner doesn’t follow the motion maybe clean that up instead.
LT is kicking out the end
LG is one on one with the DT. take him anywhere you want, just DO NOT LET HIM CROSS FACE INSIDE.
C working a combo with the RG from the NT to the play-side backer. this creates the running lane in the A gap between the Center and Left Guard. Center needs to be quick of the ball and set the edge against the NT so that the RG can come and take over that block.
RG same as above. His job is to cover up the NT, which is a really tough ask in this situation, because the NT is lined up shaded over the center. Thats a lot of ground to make up.
RT Don’t let the backside end make the play.

Initially everyone does a pretty good job, TE climbs to find work, LT kicks out his man, LG stands his ground against the DT. if Im being picky Id like to see him take that guy more outside to clean up the hole, which lets the RB set up in the hole more, and would have brought the play side backer over top faster. Center and RG are battling with the NT, but getting push which is great.
RT does a great job taking the backside end where he wants to go which is upfield and out of the play.

Frame 4 things break down. TE loses his base and the DB runs around him. Coaching point would be he needs to be more patient climbing and let the DB come to him. The real play though is made by the NT who splits the double team. the RG never got over far enough to take over the block. You can see where if the TE kicks out the corner, and the NT doesn’t split the double team, the Safety filled to the right and that thing might have gone for a TD.

coaching points for the C RG combo is better communication. In frame 4 you can see Freeman staying patient waiting for the LB to flow over top. This was actually great patience and timing from Jack, but the Guard wasn’t there. because he worried the LB wouldn’t flow and he would need to come off. Guard does have a call he can make to let the C know its not gonna happen. But the Guard and Center both kinda come off at the same time and the NT splits them. Its not gonna gonna be as clean, but you still have our RB in a one on one with a safety and if you watch it back he still almost makes it out of that mess.

Funny enough, the coaching point I would have for Tank is put your hat across the NT’s and trust your Center.





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Preciate you taking the time to break this down.

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Do some more. These are great.

Pulling lineman have a primary assignment; however, if a defender crosses your hat before you’re man, block the immediate threat

Gdashman, with your experience in this zone combo scheme… when a defense shows a bear front with those 3 downlinemen… how would we best attack the 4,5,6 and 7 holes… they seem to me to be the most vulnerable to launch an attack

You asked about attacking the 4,5,6, and 7 holes.
That refers to the alignment of the Defensive linemen. But I think what you are asking is what kind of runs could we expect targeting the B,C, and D gaps, meaning outside the guard, tackle, or tightend. Am I understanding that correctly?

I would start by saying its quite challenging to run the ball against any kind of 5-2 or something like that, especially when you have as many huge DL as UTSA had. The drawbacks of these looks are if you can get through that mess at the line of scrimmage you are gonna gash them, which is what we talked about on that first play, everyone hits their assignment and that thing might have gone all the way. The other thing you can do is get the ball to your guys in space more. They did it a couple times where they threw just a quick hitch to manjack, or cobbs I think. that keeps those outside LoS defenders from cheating in too much and ideally gets them out of that look all together. The only concern, and I think a reason we didn’t do that more is that wide side edge player was often lining up over our slot wr, and if you call that play and he cheats outside thats a pick 6. So I get what Dana said about just wanting to keep everything conservative and not make any mistakes when your defense is playing so well. But that would be one way to attack it is short on the outside, and then if we can dink our way down the field enough, you get those safeties to walk up more and you take a shot over the top. Im not gonna pretend to be a coverage expert, but I think they were just running a basic cover 2 on the back end. so like that skinny post to Manjack is a nice way to attack the middle, maybe a smash concept with the TE, or some flood concepts to the outside. So candidly my biggest advice would have been to open it up more. Dana admitted as much, but its also tough to get rhythm going with how that game played out. As far as outside zone runs it can be good, but its gonna be a lot of what we called at Katy, Trade, or wham blocks. Which are a form of a trap play more or less. This was a staple of Tulane’s run game last year, and I think we will see a lot of it this year, but its really challenging against a defense like this. The reason being You are asking that backside tackle to fill for the pulling guard and cover up the DT on the backside, which is a huge ask. that play can get blown up really bad. In fact at Katy we called this defense Mad Dog, and had a base call built in a lot of times, so if we saw something like this it didn’t matter what the run call was for the back, we were blocking it like 43 base or a B gap inside zone run. Because its safe. You aren’t gonna get blown up in the back field, and if we can create that crease we talked about you can gash them big.

Ultimately I would say, were there some things UH could have done better as far as some different runs? sure, but Its a defense designed to stop the run, which is honestly a big compliment to what UTSA thinks about Naghavi and our O-line. Because last year we faced mostly 5 or 6 man boxes with teams daring us to run it, and we couldn’t.

You obviously still need to establish the run to not become one dimensional, but the more I watch the game back, the better I feel. UH had 101 rushing yards. Donovan had 31 so our backs had 70, which isn’t great, but its not bad. UTSAs game plan was they thought they’d be able to put up a lot of points, and if they could get on top of us early, they wanted to make us abandon the run and force Donovan to beat them.
I think UH called a good game, just need some better execution, which I remain confident that we can do it was the first game of the year with a lot of new things going on. And I promise you all, Dana, Naghavi, and Burchett know how to run and call a great game. My understanding of what they are doing is probably only 20% of all the complexities that are specific to their system and scheme and scouting reports.

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Even though I started by ranting, I really appreciate the lesson.

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Haha all is well friend. I think we’re all on edge after last year about how things will go, and I got fired up as well, because this is maybe the one area where I actually have a pretty solid understanding of whats happening. Happy to provide some context, and glad it was interesting👍🏼.
Now go coogs, and lets go win some football games!

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Maybe it’s at Colorado?