Good by me !!!
I only remember CBY going to Mich State with no return.
Guess, I am just foolish !
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Bill Yeoman was 1-7 at Texas A&M and we never did any 2 for 1 deals with A&M. He played one game at Texas before we joined the conference. Chances are we were turning down 2 for 1’s back then as well. Just because he said we would play anyone, any time, any place didn’t mean he was willing to not get a fair deal out of it.
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The only 2 for 1 they should take is a home home neutral. Florida at that point was trying to establish dominance. Good on UCF for saying F U
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Being in attendance at the one game in Austin (arranged and basically force on ut by the legislature), told me all I need to know about the whorns as the refs screwed us out of the out right victory.
After the game, CBY was asked about the calls late in the game…his answer, well, you have to expect that up here !
Starting in 1976 and for 20 years, nothing changed. I saw some great victories for UH up there, but even those were sometimes tainted by those guys.
And the politics in the conference was beyond controversial. It was ut’s way or the highway.
Hell, eventually, it even drove a$m away, not to mention Colorado, Missouri, Arkansas, and Nebraska.
No thanks !!
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Also to add to this. Next year UCF finishes one and ones with Stanford and Pitt. In their future they have 3 games left with UNC on a two and two deal. A one and one with Louisville and a one and one with Georgia Tech and they still have 13 spots to fill 2020 through 2025.
If one and ones are good for Stanford, Pitt, North Carolina, Georgia Tech and Louisville, why is Florida so special?
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Exactly
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Because price is only what someone is willing to pay.
I am of the “play the best”, “play them anywhere, any time”, play at least 3 P5s a year” and “never play another FCS, ever” persuasion, but UCF was right to turn down UF. Home, Home & Neutral is the way to go. That is especially advantageous to us if the Neutral is at NRG because regardless of who is designated as the home team, we are still playing in Houston.
For the record, “play them anywhere, anytime” includes tu and tamu for me.
And Yeoman was 5-1 against A&M in Houston. I get the objections, the slap in the face comments, etc. All that goes out the window when the opening kickoff is in the air, and Texans, including high school players, are seeing UH on the same field again with Aggy and Texas and very possibly coming away with a victory. That would be a huge boost for UH, plus we’d still be able to play the Utahs, Colorados, Arizonas, etc home and home.
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I’m for holding UH to a higher standard and not letting others dictate to us !
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Wait. How does us going 5-1 at home to a team that we were 1-7 on the road make an argument that 2 for 1 we will do just fine? In a 15 game series, we come out with a 5-10 record at best.
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UCF is already in a hole. Once they claimed a national championship it was on. Our national media coverage during the Herman years was positive. The Peach Bowl and Oklahoma wins put and kept us in the conversation. We weren’t disrespected for not playing Oklahoma on our campus. 2-for-1 or 1-for-1 is not part of the typical media conversation. We earned the positive reputation on the field.
UCF is trying to take a positive reputation by telling us and the media what to think. Florida, LSU, Texas, Alabama, the list goes on, are not going to do home-and-homes with G5s and FCSs because they don’t have to. SEC schedules are typically strong enough that a non-conference schedule is not relevant. They are only relevant for the CFP committee member “eye test.” Alabama (currently, except maybe Clemson) will smoke the field no matter how many teams are in it. Alabama may play someone somewhat competitive only to stave off doubt if another elite team (often SEC) with a like conference schedule may edge them out in SOS with a game against a legit opponent OOC.
UCF and strong G5s present too much of a no-win situation for the elite P5s. They lose money with every game they play off campus. Sold-out 100,000 seat stadiums are sold out no matter who comes to play. Road games are a financial loss. And, there is the same old thing with a loss to a G5 or FCS can destroy your season and win was a gimme anyway.
As far as an unbalanced OOC schedule going forward, we don’t go to Prairie View.
You gotta walk the walk. Unmotivated P5s often lose to less talented G5s in New Year’s 6 Bowl games. As long as the CFP remains a popularity contest, the regular season matters. I’d love to see UCF prove it at Florida in September. Maybe if hurricanes didn’t wipe out their scheduled OOC games with lower level P5s and they beat LSU they’d have more credibility. But, they don’t yet.
I have not heard anyone talk about money negotiations in a 2-1 deal. I might take the 2-1 deal if UT pays my travel expenses plus $1M when we visit them. We could even have a deal to play at NRG and split it 60/40 depends on how much 40% is. I’m sure Pezman would take a deal like that.
It’s not like our athletic department has money trees.
I don’t know if the deal would have been like that but UCF could have gone into negotiations with UF. UCF has the big head now and forgot they only get $2M a year.
First, there is no deal. Texas nor A&M will offer us a two-for-one. Why not? Because they know one win in the series for UH is a serious boost for our program. But I understand the reticence, and I’m fine with playing PAC 12 programs and maybe out-of-state, lesser Big 12 programs one-for-one.
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Didn’t we try to get a deal with UT in return for waiving Herman’s buy out? Basically we told them we’d release Herman for free (his buyout was about $2 million), in return for a home and home or was it 2-1 in their favor? They said no and bought out the contract. $2 million is chump change to them.
So it’s not like we haven’t tried to get UT to schedule us.
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This…right now we are in the group of have nots and if we want to dig ourselves back to respectability we need to step up to the plate and swallow our pride a bit.
I would play Texas or Agy in a New York minute…I mean, what would we have to lose? So many of the younger folks have never been involved in a big rivalry like those two bring to the table.
I understand the bitterness, but at the moment we are not in the position to negotiate with the top teams, including the two in this state.
Bottom line, and swallow your pride here, is that UT and Agy High have nothing to gain by playing us at this moment. But everyone should also remember that while Agy shunned us when the SWC broke up, Texas continued to play us a few years until Bleachergate blew the thing up.
Yeah, I wouldn’t mind a two fer…it beats the heck out of playing TSU, Sam Houston or Prairie View…with no disrespect to those fine schools.
No matter where we play them…Anytime, anyone, any where…I believe that is what TCU did for years before being invited to the Big 12.
And for a few years it worked out well for Boise State…
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We had just beat Florida State, Oklahoma and crushed Louisville so our administration was feeling cocky similar to how UCF is acting now.
In addition, we went through that B12 expansion scam wasting our administrator’s time and money.
UT did not want any part of the Giant Killer, what we were known as that time so of course they declined our offer.
It’s not like we had a lot of money coming in so I would have never made that offer. We needed the $2.5M more than we needed to embarrass UT. Of course that game would have been last year or this coming season and we don’t want any part of UT now.
But we do have the coach that beat UT so in 2 or 3 years, they better start looking over their shoulders.
We will just have to disagree.
I will never favor any other school dictating UH’s schedule.
You must not like the way CKS schedules as he is on record saying that he will not schedule teams that will not come here to play. I know that 2 for 1’s in BB are not common, neither should they be for FB.
FBS/P5 is a different animal that does not comply with fairness in any part. Team discrimination of other teams and practicing exclusion is the norm.
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