So when someone commits a criminal offense if we call them criminal does that also dehumanize them?
What do we call a criminal that breaks the law? The law says it’s illegal to enter the USA just walking thru the border. So it’s a criminal offense. Do you think it’s ok to trespass on property?
I’m for legal immigration and most reasonable people are.
Yes, and again, it sets up a “they get what they deserve” mentality similar to what we’ve already seen in this thread.
We do it all the time when we identify people with their illegal actions (even if we don’t do it with all of them).
Well fine just beat me to the point a couple times how it’s designed to create the permission structures for mistreatment. See if I care
No the media wants that narrative that if you say anything opposing illegal immigration, your dehumanizing or being racist. It’s a way to shut the argument down which represents a fear of having a complete dialogue on whether it’s right or wrong and digging into details. Media won’t mention how Mexico has armed guards at their southern border nor the fact that other countries have harsher and better methods of keeping people from just walking in.
No, it’s not the media (as if that’s one group). That’s a cop out.
I’m trying to have a dialogue right now. Not shutting anything down. You’re much closer to doing that than me.
You can disagree with me but basically saying I’m brainwashed by the “media” (whoever that is), isn’t have a dialogue.
There is not one media group. The media is a bunch groups with different opinions. Some that agree with you.
Seeing as how so many of the immigrants are currently from Central America…he might want to have a chat about the efficacy of those armed Mexican border guards
I’m against what the Nebraska guy did and he should go to jail and be called a murderer and criminal so only stupid people have the get what you deserve mentality towards illegals.
You have to go by the law and if you don’t want them being called illegals then vote and tell the gov to have open boarders then all will be legal.
Yeah, caravans cruise through Mexico nonstop. They don’t care.
Yet it happens, and happened in this thread at some level.
I’m not telling you what to call them. I’m telling you what it does.
And you’re dodging much of what I’m saying and setting up straw men to knock down.
So is Mexico racist?
Why doesn’t the media reveal this?
You got that from the media.
And no one is taking up for Mexico.
Yeah but when I say media I really meant tv and newspapers vs hunting on the web. This will never be on tv bc it’s hurts the media’s liberal slant on this topic.
Have you or anyone seen this on cnn is other outlets on tv?
The NYT and WaPo have reported on it quite a bit over the last few years.
And I’m sure right wing media has (which exists on tv and newspapers).
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/14/world/americas/mexico-migration-national-guard.html
Ex of how most countries want control of their borders and this is Mexico doing it yet if we do it, we’re dehumanizing them.
It’s like if someone is accusing joe of speeding , joe says your being racist or a hater of some sort to devert the conversation from him breaking the law to somehow your now the bad guy for calling it out.
For society to function smoothly we have laws and if we disagree with a law then follow it until it’s changed.
Not following your analogy at all.
That said, what does the article say? I’m guessing you’re a subscriber if you can read it all.
Main gist of the article is that Mexico has armed guards at its southern border to keep Guatemalians from illegally crossing into Mexico.
Media reported it but never on tv as in the major outlets bc they know it won’t help there bias slant.
Never? You said it wasn’t in newspapers until I pointed it out. How do you know it was never reported on tv?
In any case, this is all a deflection from what we were talking about.
No one is taking up for or condemning Mexico and no one said anything about not protecting our borders. You’re knocking down strawmen.
Ok so back on topic. As far as what the Nebraska guy did, it’s wrong and like said it’s mainly ignorant people wanting them killed etc.
Is that method working for Mexico?
Pretty sure our guards on the border are armed too
This may come as a shock but many police officers often refer to people especially black and hispanics in areas of high crime “as animals”, yeah, they dehumanize them so as not to have any empathy nor compassion and if they get roughed up, so be it. They are often called and seen as criminals even before they commit a crime.
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