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On another board, I recently posted the following response to a Clayton Tune critic…
"Since you stated that a few previous UH QB’s were “elite” I thought that this might be a good cause for introspection…so I compared Clayton Tune’s prior season passing stats (adjusted from 8 to 12 games) to both KK (12 games) and GW (13 games) prior year season(s) going into their junior year (season) respectively at UH as follows:
Clayton Tune - 255 of 427 (60%) - 3,072 yds - 23 TDs vs 15 Ints (+8) - 256 yds/game - 7.2 yds/pass attempt.
Kevin Kolb - 254 of 420 (60%) - 3.258 yds - 19 TDs vs 15 Ints (+4) - 271 yds/game - 7.7 yds/pass attempt.
Greg Ward - 177 of 263 (67%) - 2,010 yds - 12 TDs vs 7 Ints (+5) - 154 yds/game - 7.5 yds/pass attempt.
So my statiscally based logical conclusions are as follows:
#1 - TD/Int - Tune was better than either KK or GW in their TDs vs Int ratio at +8 (vs +4 & +5);
#2 - Passing Yds - Tune was a close 2nd to KK in yds/game (271 vs 256) and better than GW was by 100+ yards/game;
#3 - Completion % - Tune was equal to KK at 60% while both trailed GW at 67%;
#4 - Yds/Pass Attempt - not much of a difference there; and so
at this point in there respective UH careers Tune was just as good or better than either KK or GW - and so if they were both considered to be “elite” players at QB at UH then I would have to conclude that so too is our current QB Tune."
[NOTE 1: See correction of typographical error of 28 vs 23 passing TDs for Tune. Thanks Pesik.]
[NOTE 2: See adjustment made in the post below for Ward having started only 8 games in 2014 at QB - grossed up to a 12 game equivalent.]