OT: Guns N’ Roses, Savannah Bananas the solution to cash problem?

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I believe, but could be wrong, they put a protective floor out for concerts at Daikin. We didn’t do any such thing for a church service and it damaged our turf. So, while it could be “easier” if we are going to leave the turf as is for a concert, it might be more risky. Considering the promoter’s perspective, I don’t think they would care how much trouble converting the field is because that would fall to the venue operator and not the promoter. It would only potentially affect scheduling as the time for load in/load out plus for the venue to convert the floor couldn’t be too close to other events. This is an issue that would affect Daikin revenue/operations and likely not one the promoter would consider as far as choosing venues.

The baseball footprint isn’t really a problem for promoters or fans, since there are a lot of concerts at baseball stadiums across the country. However, your comment did make me think that depending on stage placement at TDECU, you’ll have a large number of seats that would be behind the stage and thus not sold. I have never been to a concert at Daikin, but if you look at these maps, they likely don’t lose as many seats with the stage as TDECU would (assuming they aren’t using a round stage like the Rodeo). Daikin Park Guide: Upcoming events and concerts schedule, seating map, close hotels and airports, parking, bags policy and more to know in Houston | Sporting News

Really, the competitive advantage is going to come from Daikin Park having air conditioning, which TDECU does not. I’d say Daikin has advantages over TDECU (or is at least neutral) in parking, proximity to hotels/bars, rail, etc. So that’s another selling point to the concert promoters.

I think that’s typical for the college athletic facilities.

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The church service damaging our turf is 100% on both the Church/client and on us. I can tell you from experience that there are a ton of products that are there to protect artificial turf from being damaged. I can name at least four to five products.
Again having turf and staging events is a night and day advantage over grass.
Are you sure that it is typical of athletic facilities to be in charge of their stadium? Fine, Clemson hosting Metallica was a great show. Young crowd we should/ought to do the same at TDECU. Getting rock bands that might not be known by everyone but I could see a TDECU rock fest becoming a regional “date” Having seven/eight events is not great. We ought to do better.

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Google ai said it was and everything I’ve heard or read that I can remember was always indicating that to be the case.

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I would fully support a Texxas Jam-like event but this is the 21st century and those days are long gone.

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Another thing to keep in mind is that neither TDECU or Fertitta Center typically use Ticketmaster, and they are not part of the Live Nation Venue Network. UH Athletics uses AXS. That may eliminate the venues from consideration for a lot of concert tours and the like.

The best outside revenue generator for TDECU is football games. I figure UH has done well to get the various UFL teams in over the years and the UIL playoffs. The only non-UH event I’ve attended was AEW pro wrestling at Fertitta, and it was great. I took an Uber and it didn’t take forever.

I always encourage the real ones (Inner Loopers represent!) to park along the rail and take the train(s) to TDECU. Maybe don’t ride it alone at night if you’re a young woman or a Baylor dork, though… the choo-choo is home to some characters! (What’s that Guns ‘n’ Roses song, again? Welcome to the jungle, baby!) But it’s pretty convenient if you can hang.

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Indeed:
Colleges and universities use Ticketmaster as their official primary and resale ticketing partner for athletic games, campus concerts, and external events. While Ticketmaster handles the ticketing, Live Nation (Ticketmaster’s parent company) acts as the event promoter, booking major touring acts into these campus venues.

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I don’t know where you got that from but I think it is at least slightly inaccurate. It reads as if all universities use ticketmaster but they don’t.

UH uses Paciolan which is owned by Learfield. If you look into it, I believe you will find the majority (if not all) Learfield schools use Paciolan. Now for the non-UH events held at Fertita Center or TDECU, I believe all of the ones I mentioned earlier are using the Paciolan system because you can buy through the athletic department website the same as for a UH game. The only exception was the UIL playoffs which were shown as an “external event” and I think directs you elsewhere for tickets.

Cullen Performance Hall also uses Paciolan for ticketing but again I’m not sure if that counts as athletic department revenue or if it’s some sort of split or what. My guess is the Athletics department gets a service fee to handle ticketing and/or booking for CPF and not the full rental as revenue.

I do believe the Moores Opera House and School of Theater use a different system from athletics and it’s probably a system that really focuses on that type of venue.

The Toyota Center uses AXS.

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Reading all this, my feeling is generally UH and other schools will use their default ticketing system like Paciolan for all events UNLESS the promoter or show they booked is tied to a different system and that would be part of the agreement in the rental. That of course would necessitate some different ticket scanners most likely for the day of the event but I would assume any tour using a different system than the venue would already have that worked out.

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Just for sake of discussion, I checked out some College venues about ticketing for concerts:

Moody Center @ UT uses Ticketmaster for their concerts
Baylor’s Foster Pavilion uses Paciolan
Texas Tech has three events currently using AXS but they use Paciolan for athletic tickets
Texas A&M also uses Paciolan for athletics and used it for George Straight as well as other non-Aggie athletic based events booked currently
LSU used Paciolan for a recent Post Malone show

The only one of those listed really has a big regular schedule and that’s the Moody Center but it has long been the main concert venue in Austin (if you include when it was Frank Erwin Center). The Moody Center is a public/private partnership between UT and Live Nation’s C3 Presents, The Moody Foundation, and maybe a couple other entities. So it makes sense it is a Live Nation/Ticketmaster venue as they have partial ownership unlike all the other venues listed that I believe are all wholy owned by their respective universities.

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oddly enough there’s a live nation building right down the street on elgin

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I think you mean Westheimer. I know Live Nation owns/controls House of Blues, Punchline, 713 Music Hall, Bayou Music Center, and The Woodlands Pavillion.

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Yes, Live Nation has enough owned venues and partners in Houston that they don’t need the UH buildings. You aren’t likely to see Slash and Duff on campus anytime soon.

The Savannah Bananas? They’re coming to Constellation Field in Sugar Land in August. I can think of no argument that they should have booked TDECU instead!

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Now UH is saying the turf wont be fixed until after football season, this is from that church event. I would bet this will give UH pause on future rentals. At the very least, they will need a new approach to protecting the turf.