OT: More Proof UH Is Transforming to Traditional Campus

But, UT, Rice, and plenty of other schools ARE.

Lots of people that get accepted to UH architecture also get accepted to other HIGHER RANKED architecture schools, and ultimately choose them over UH.

Again, that 100+ number is the YIELD, NOT the admission rate.

My goodness if there was a thread worthy of a lock

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Our alum send kids to LSU because (1) LSU is throwing scholarships at them and (2) they don’t want their kids going to UH for whatever reason. My guess is that it revolves around perceived crime problems and likely their kids wanting to go to an SEC party type school, and another issue that I mention below.

LSU is in a bad area; it is basically UH but in Baton Rouge. In fact I would argue it’s in a worse area, because it’s about two blocks from petrochemical plants and the Mississippi.

But let’s be more blunt; many UH alum have a negative view of UH due to demographics. I know this because I have heard it from alums of my generation. It’s messed up for sure but it is what it is. Not sure much UH can do about that.

Only UT and Rice.

And speaking for the Industrial Design degree, i believe that program is #1 in the whole Southwest region of the US

Only UT and Rice among TEXAS schools.

Lots of those same applicants will be applying to Ivies, MIT, Cooper Union, and other out of state architecture schools that are higher ranked than UH.

And the ones that get into those will often choose them OVER their admission to UH architecture school.

Again, that 100ish number is the YIELD, NOT the admission rate.

LSU is in a poorer state, a worse achool academically , with more crime, and fewer corporate connections and UH alubs still send them there over UH for ONE reason…

LSU is perceived to be the more Traditional University…everything else favors UH

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Someone pretending to be 2 people is telling another person to see a therapist

Interesting

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Im Cillen…I’m not following your delusion

I think it’s past time to stop repeating things.

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I thought you were a resurrected Enrico di Portanova.

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So when you say ā€œtraditionalā€ what do you mean? Because I would bet dollars to donuts that our idea of traditional isn’t the same as those people who choose to send their kids to LSU over UH.

It’s like people here in Atlanta who send their kids to Auburn, Tennessee, South Carolina and Kennesaw State over GSU or Georgia Tech, even though GSU is ranked higher than most of those schools (and of course so is Ga Tech).

Again, just telling you what I hear in conversations: it’s demographics. Make of it what you will. :man_shrugging:t4:

Apparently 1927 has had conversations with President Khator herself regarding traditional students

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Yeah, ya know, it’s interesting.

I have a group of relatives in Atlanta.

There were four brothers among them.

Brother #1 went two years to GaTech and flunked out. Works in sales.
Brother #2 enlisted in the Navy, and then went to a small college in CA on the GI Bill. Worked as a manager at a rental car place, and later retired after working for Brother #4.
Brother #3 graduated from Georgia State…married a rich girl and worked for her Dad, but got fired when they split; now owns an ACE hardware in Savannah.
Brother #4 barely finished high school…BUT…IRONICALLY…is now the one MILLIONAIRE among them, having owned a motorcycle dealership at one point, and later serving as an exec in a scaffolding company…employing Brother #2!!!

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Much nicer.

UH had ~31.7k freshman apps last year (FTIC) and accepted ~23.5k. That is 74% accepted. 6200 enrolled for the largest freshman class in history.

I bet the rate of acceptance is higher this year along with the yield (enrolled) rate. (48k with how many accepted). If we have say, 24k accepted total, then good, that is a 50% admit rate. So long as it’s less than 28k. Please let it be less than 28k. a sub 60% acceptance rate would be the lowest it’s been in years and possibly in the entire Khator Tenure, compared to last year where it was the highest in said Tenure. The lowest was for Fall 2016, after the Herman Peach Bowl Season @ 59%

There was an article that came out recently on where the valedictorians/salutatorians go to. UT and TAMU were the top two, obviously.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/education/article/texas-universities-valedictorians-19971400.php

UH doesn’t store high school rankings in their data (even though it is a part of their admissions process). Though I know several #1s/#2s that I’ve met when they were asking questions about my dept or when answering as to why they came here (money was thrown at them)

They also reported the amount of freshman that enrolled in 2024. TAMU @ 12,500, Texas State @ 9500 (seriously?), UT @ 9200, TTU and UNT @ 6500, and TWU in 3000.

While UH themselves released their numbers of 6200 for 2024. It’s like they keep trying to hide things when it comes to being grouped with the rest of the schools…

UH??? What is the deal??? How much talent are you NOT attracting??? This isn’t the way of being competitive??

Anyway - on the topic of TxSoU. It not only needs to be kept around, but it needs to be pushed and promoted. If bringing it into the UH system is a way to get it the funding and promotion it deserves, then let’s make it happen. Wasn’t it supposed to be the UT of HBCUs? If there are POCs that want a space like that other than spots like UT/UT/TAMU, why not make it what it deserves and have it available as an option?

TxSoU is ranked #15 for Greek Life according to Niche with PVAMU coming in at #18. Both far, far above any other school in the state.

That sounds MUCH more believable to me.

The idea that we accepted only 6600 out of 40K applicants would put us at USNEWS Top 40 levels.

I knew that that couldn’t be accurate.

Mods can we please merge this thread with the conference realignment thread, and retitle it the looney bin?

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For the life of me, I don’t understand why people still trust USN&WR to tell the truth about what day it is. That online rag is the biggest scam ever.

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When I think of ā€œtraditionalā€ freshman college students this is what comes to mind:

a) fresh out of HS as a true freshman, or perhaps with no more than either one post-graduate or gap year
b) enrolled in a full-time course load (12 or more hours)
c) not living with parents or relatives, and either living on campus in dorms, in fraternity/sorority houses, or within a few square miles of campus
d) interested in being involved in on-campus activities (Greek Life, student organizations, clubs, on campus sports attendance, etc).

UT and aTm, as well as SEC schools, have a far higher percentage of students that meet those criteria than UH.

In UH’s case, there are going to be too many that don’t meet ā€œcā€ and ā€œd.ā€

Many will be living with parents and commuting, or commuting from way out, often only stopping on campus for classes before heading back to their waitressing, barista, clerical, grocery, or blue collar job, and having little to no involvement in campus life.

Beyond freshman year, you are still ā€œtraditionalā€ if b, c, and d are met.

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Everything about those rankings are so gamed it’s disgusting. The changes in methodology definitely benefited UH, but they stopped bragging about their jumps in rankings because they kept going down afterwards.

Now don’t get me started on what the peer reviews were after the GCSW dropped 50+ spots when the interim provost (pre-Chase) removed their dean over abolitionist views. Peer rankings screwed that pooch way too hard.

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