OT: More Proof UH Is Transforming to Traditional Campus

I’ll have to check with ChatGPT to see if I agree with you.

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That is the worst commercial for a hospital ever!! :grinning:

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Did anyone consider the projected decline of teenagers in the next decade?

Millennials are not cranking out like 3+ kids like the Boomers did in the 70s, 80s, and 90s.

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This would be a HUGE move.

Also today, UTSA and UT Health San Antonio were announced to merge. This could also be a move by UH to keep competitive?

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For sure all the surrounding hospitals hate UH for opening up another medical school. The hospitals will never let UH do their teachings in medical center where other universities have preference.

UH going to st josephs solidifies that and makes it suck that theyre not at the table. Thats extremely far to be.

Nonsense. The only lack of understanding here is that increasing the quality of the student body requires that we remove any choice of housing for Freshmen. That’s not necessary, unworkable even with another 1000 beds, and unsupported by the legislature that pays the bills.

Not just now, we saw a huge drop off during the recession of 2008-2010 and we will start to see college admission decrease:

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HCA is the partner institution right now for their residents, which is actually a good place to be (other than their huge prices for hospital stays).

This could be a co-managed hospital between UH and HCA?

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I understand your point, I do nto agree with it and it is not the purpose of the university, not possible to accurately define in the admissions process.

The one question you say to add would just be given an answer that the students will get admitted with, not one they will commit to as a lifetime contract. No student is going to say UH is their backup school on the application. Also if they did and still ended up at UH, they may grow to love it here. Others have already pointed out the students will answer what they think is the right answer for admission. or are you proposing a polygraph test…

Now answer my questions on your architecture students you used for an example. Would you have not allowed them in? on what basis would they have been denied on their application? (well you can read the questions above)

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I agree with your statement here. It is not necessarily racist or discriminatory in concept. However, to apply it on an application, the only way to predetermine is through stereotypical statistics.

I feel it is much much better to admit academically sound students, then when they are at UH, make them love it. Make a campus that they grow to be a part of. Not predetermine from their application. Build great buildings and appearance, provide good food and activities on campus, give them reason to stay loyal. Loyalty is earned.

14% at UT freshmen participated in Greek life

A&M hasn’t listed their percentage for the last five years. It’s definitely lower than UT’s percentage. Maybe under 10%. Why?

A very high percentage (majority?) of kids from wealthy high schools go Greek in college. UT has a higher percentage of top 1% and bottom 20% than A&M.

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I think we can:

Raise admissions standards for high demand majors then stop raising it when CLASS becomes a 3.0 minimum or 3.25 minimum to be assured (this is for transferring as idk the freshman assureds as they’re 3.8, 3.9).

Focus on a traditional college experience.

Maintain the commuter office and add non-traditional stuff in it, while keeping it as Houston’s University.

You’ll have two types of graduates, and UH as a working class urban Uni NEEDS to cater to both of them:

Graduate A: “I’m here for a degree, go coogs”

Graduate B: “How can I be the best Houston Cougar I can, and get a degree, go coogs!”

You can get a go coogs from both.

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I have got to disagree, A$M is an outlier with 70,000+ fanatical students who give to “MECCA” bigtime. Both UT and OU have bigtime fraternities and sororities that contribute big $ to the coffers, on campus, around town at events and alumni giving. When you drive on campus and see students driving $100,00+ cars, you know there is $ coming in. I do not know about Georgetown, but sure they have greek life.

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UH is already a member of TMC by way of the College of Pharmacy and College of Medicine so it already has a seat at the table.

Being on I45, UH Medical Center would get a lot of attention, but right now, it’s just a rumor.

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I can’t blame people for not having kids (millennials and gen z to be exact) the cost of childcare is insane…

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childcare, housing, cars…shiiii, the Millennials will have to fix it

EndlessPurple,

Our goal isn’t to accept 100% of those type of students (that’s impossible), the goal is t accept enough that we start to organically create a culture similar to other P4 Universities.

Then once we have that core nucleus of ‘Houston Cougar Culture’, we can make tremendous strides as a traditional University and "hopefully’ one where more In-state, and out of state, applicants have as their dream #1 Choice.

I’m not saying we should be another University of Texas EXACTLY, but to a bunch of out of state applicants (with limited knowledge of Texas schools), there are enough “potential” similarities there that we can market ourselves as another UT type of school in the state of Texas for those that want to GO AWAY to school here.

We are more similar to UT than TAMU is to UT.

We are a LARGE diverse public University, with no military ties, located in a top 15 US city (similar to UT in Austin).

Someone from out of state will start to see UH and UT more and more as equivalents, with each passing day. Yes, it is possible.

Just look at our campus growth over the last 20 years and think about what UH will look like 50 years from now…very UT- Austin like.

UH will be a VERY SOLID selection of a large public school IN TEXAS!

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Georgetown does NOT have Greek Life.

https://www.georgetown.edu/news/how-to-get-involved-in-campus-life-and-university-policies-on-greek-life-hazing-and-student-conduct/#:~:text=Georgetown%20University%20does%20not%20support,the%20benefit%20of%20University%20oversight.

Quote: Georgetown University does not support a social Greek system. Social fraternities and sororities are not eligible for access to University benefits, nor do they have the benefit of University oversight.

For that matter, some Ivy League schools like Harvard don’t.

I know that the following Ivy League Schools definitely have Greek Life:

Yale
Penn
Brown
Dartmouth
Cornell
Columbia

Harvard does not.

Princeton does not, BUT…it has a long-standing tradition of “eating clubs” which are essentially like fraternities and sororities on other college campuses, except with non-Greek names.

See here:

Cornell has BY FAR the largest Greek system of any Ivy League School, with more than 50 fraternities and sororities on campus, representing about 1/3 of the student body.

The nation’s largest Greek system is at the University of Illinois.

It has 87 fraternities and sororities.

I didn’t say anything about UT or comparing UH to another school. I asked about the students in your example.