OT: More Proof UH Is Transforming to Traditional Campus

Coming from TCU, I’m sure you know all about Greek Life. TCU is a major player in that scene.

The Executive Director of my own fraternity (Sigma Nu) at the national level got his start as a Sigma Nu at TCU

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The answer isn’t subtraction, per se, its about prioritizing students that provide a higher ROI so to answer your question…Yes, accepting Low ROI students is KILLING our University right now.

So much so, we have to subsidize Athletics with Student fees…you may think that is fine and dandy…but I don’t.

Stop making excuses and find a way to attract students that WANT to be a part of our University (in a million ways, not just athletics) and let the leeches go leech off of other schools.

They are sucking us dry…literally.

Renu Khator mentioned it in the press conference…we CANNOT keep going to the same 12 big donors to support a Power 4 University.

WE ALL WANTED THIS…now we need to act like a Power 4 University.

WE ALL KNEW WHAT THE STAKES WERE.

We need to target HIGH ROI students…or else we will continue to be be stuck in the mud. in all areas.

We have to “pull that band aid off” sometime

I keep reminding people accepting Women to Texas A& M was something they did NOT WANT TO DO but if you want to be a Traditional Destination University…YOU HAVE TO EVOLVE!

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TCU was over 50% greek when I was there. I think they still are. I was not in a frat, but had many friends that were greek (more sororities, than fraternities as school was 60% female).

One benefit to the school was that they required rushees to attend the football games.

Edit to add: TCU also has on campus dorms for each house.

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That is why Indiana and Illinois are big time money schools. Most of those students are not working their way through school, quite the opposite, they are giving $50-100k over normal tuition for 4 years.

No they are not. They are there for an education which is the purpose of the university.

You keep yelling about getting rid of low ROI students, but there is no valid way to do that. It is not about admissions letting in “the right student”, but about the school taking responsibility and making students want to be a part of it once they are there.

The goals are the same, but your method is discriminatory and negative as opposed to UH making it a positive experience. Khator is working to improve the on campus experience which will build loyalty. I have not seen anything where she says anything about letting in “the right” student only.

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You are delirious, we are last in almost all of the Power 4 metrics measuring subsidies, and operating budgets.

Schools with HALF of our student body enrollment run circles around us…so what is it then?

If believing that UH should be about providing a great education to all academically qualified students and building a campus that improves student loyalty, then I will take delirious. You can stick with the profiteering discriminatory approach to admissions. Good luck with it, I don’t see them adding it to the admissions process.

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There are a number of systemic factors as to why are far behind everyone else.

First and foremost, Texas is a state with a lot of Power schools. UH has been left out of power conferences while everyone else got to continue stacking Power 5 media revenue. With exception to SMU and TCU who have rich private school donors. UH is not on this tier.

Secondly, Houston struggled to build itself academic for multiple decades post-SWC. Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor, Tech, etc. had way more institutional support that UH lacked.

There’s more but I won’t dive into every point. Essentially, UH is just now building the pillars to become a true powerhouse university in every aspect. We should’ve had the support decades ago but we didn’t.

We aren’t a G5 anymore…we raised the stakes on OURSELVES.

It’s why Dr. Khator is scrambling to turn us into a traditional University ASAP.

You should have vehemently opposed our P4 pursuit because I hate to break to you but almost all other P4 universities do what I am proposing…not only do they do it…they have to to survive.

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What is a traditional university

What do you mean by that

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Very nice Master Plan. I always though we could do something with Braes Bayou., by the Medical Research Building going in. There used to be a big paddle boat on it near downtown. Maybe the train along Spur 5 going to Galveston could be used for events to the beach or game day.

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I’ve posted multiple posts about it.

You don’t think LSU targets Texas kids knowing EXACTLY which type of student they want to protect their reputation and image with a goal of preserving their cultural core?

The sad thing is we are infinitely a better academic school than LSU but they steal so many Texas students that would really help balance out our need for creating passionate Lifelong UH family members…like LSU does.

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The yearly subsidy towards athletics for the past 30 years would have done a lot towards the academic side. And now we are borrowing from the proceeds of the new university to loan to athletics :man_facepalming:t4:

yep…and people here KEEP fighting the things we are saying to be self sufficient.

Why do you think I call out the Boomers who graduated in the 80s and 90s who sent their kids to other schools lol.

That was the golden period at UH to build a generational fanbase.

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People who graduated in the 80’s and 90’s aren’t boomers.

And you can’t call out parents for the decisions the children make.

Arkansas takes a lot of Texas students too. Hell I think OU does so too.

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One thing’s for sure. Both of those schools have very impressive libraries.

Their libraries are, according to this source, the 2nd and 10th largest nationally, with Illinois’ library being second only to Harvard.

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I thought baby boomers were born from 1950s to 1970s, which would mean they attended college from the 70s to the 90s.

UH was just $4 per credit hour when I started in 1986. I believe the state funded about half of the university’s expenses at that time. Now it’s roughly 10%.