OT: More Proof UH Is Transforming to Traditional Campus

Scott St is the obvious expansion point.

It would be silly to expand across 45.

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It could be ugly politically for a brief time, but it is doable

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Do we really need to expand? We’re an urban campus. Our acreage is several times larger than Pitt or GaTech or UT-Austin as it stands. It’s not like we do the kind of land-intensive ag research that the A&Ms of the world do.

Its not about the land. Its about attracting businesses into the area

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Expanding won’t help that, either. Businesses follow the money, and in Houston, the money isn’t near UH, unless we swallow everything up to 288.

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Not just businesses, but students from affluent families. When people with money come tour the campus with their kids, they’re going to see the mess that is Scott Street and the rest of the surrounding area. Then they’ll visit Rice and it will be night and day.

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More on campus activities is a must. You have four home B12 football games that can center tailgating and other activities around in the Fall, we are fortunate to have bigtime basketball into March to center activities there, but there needs to be more. Student ambassadors and Frontiersman need to be hosting some events.

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Something needs to be done about third ward, east downtown is already being gentrified. Why can’t 3rd ward

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What so they say about LSU then? USC? Florida State

UH and Rice do not target the same potential student pool.

I’ve heard the University of Chicago is in a really bad neighborhood too. They likely would compete with Rice for students.

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Rice is in a terrible neighborhood. West U is the most boring place in Houston! :joy:

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I lived in West U for 25 years. Raised my 3 sons there. I would not consider it a “boring” neighborhood. Convenient, friendly and solid hard working citizens.

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Yes, and such wonderful senses of humor they have, too! :laughing: I’m just kidding, of course. West U seems like a very exciting place to walk a dog or whatever.

Sorry! Couldn’t resist. :kissing_heart: Genuinely, shout-out to all Houston neighborhoods. May our every speed bump be pulverized and turned into pothole filler!

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As a student, I always wondered what the deal was with University Oaks. Prime real estate bordered by UH and the bayou. Was shocked that there weren’t any apartments being built there until Campus Vue opened. I always expected it to develop like west campus one day. Frat houses included; not sure if they’re just not allowed, don’t want to live there, or just can’t afford a permanent house.

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TAMU had over 80,000 students this fall. I suspect at least some of these would be attending UH if TAMU had at least capped enrollments at 60k. UT- Austin has had about the same enrollment for more than 30 years.

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Source: U.S. Department of Education

“Florida Institute of Technology topped the list with a staggering 17.6 crimes per 1,000 students. Despite its smaller size and technical focus, the Melbourne, Florida campus reported 150 total crimes, with violent offenses—particularly sexual crimes—driving much of this rate.

Stanford University and the University of California-Berkeley, two of California’s most prestigious research institutions, struggle with high crime rates. Stanford’s rate of 16.6 per 1,000 students included 306 total crimes, while Berkeley’s massive campus saw 656 incidents. Valuable research equipment, construction sites, and high-density urban environments contribute to these elevated numbers.

Elite institutions dominate the rankings, with Dartmouth College (11.9), Yale University (10.7), and Rice University(12.6) all appearing in the top ten. This demonstrates that even prestigious institutions in smaller communities are not immune to campus crime.

Some of these schools may simply be better at documenting and reporting crimes that go unreported elsewhere, rather than being more dangerous.”

Ohio State had the 12th highest rate according to the fed stats at 10.0.

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TAMU’s 80k student body takes into account all campuses, not just the College Station campus. It’s a weird count. “Everyone an Aggie” and all that stuff.

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I used to live there for a few years, maybe less than 10 minutes from campus just outside of downtown. I wouldn’t say Columbus is run down by any stretch. They have their share of problem spots like any other sizable city but it’s otherwise fine. But I agree, the area around the campus is nice and well planned out. I hope we get to see the day our campus’ surrounding area gets the facelift it deserves.

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True and thanks for pointing that out,
Galveston is essentially their maritime campus and has always been included as they are not separately accredited. Not unlike in some ways UH Sugarland enrollments being count on UH numbers.

Including Qatar is weird though other universities with similar overseas campuses do the same. But those students should be excluded for this discussion.

College Station Campus|74,407|

Branch Campuses (Galveston and Qatar)|2,613|

Health Science Center|4,334|

|Total Enrollment|81,354|

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My husband went to UChicago for grad school. The campus itself is gorgeous, the area around it is rough, there is a nicer neighborhood on one side. UH is in a better spot location wise than UChicago. It is a great school, but it attracts a very unique type of student.

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