The timing is not wrong. Their lease with the stadium is up in seven years. The county, which has full control of NRG Stadium hasn’t maintained the current stadium, so they are brainstorming their options now. Seven years in advance of when that lease is up.
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Those stadiums are old, old and older in HISD - they need something - every burb has brand new facilities- HISD has the schools - just need a showcase stadium for in the loop
Why on earth should the Harris tax payers pay for this?
The Texans owner wants a renovated NRG? The Texans owner has to help the county. The county on the other side has to do their jobs or they will have to repay the Harris County tax payers. The Harris County maintenance group clearly Fed upped. Where is the public audit in all of this?
The Texans want a new stadium? Find a private partner to fund that new stadium. Never should the tax payers have to pay for this. This is why it is called an NFL franchise. When a franchisee wants to open a hotel does he/she ask the tax payers to pay and build that hotel? Come on somebody help me on this.
Where on earth does it say that tax payers should pay for NFL owners stadiums?
You want tax payers help? Then why don’t you have a clause that the same owner can’t move the franchise to another town? That franchise can never move.
Will the NFL owners go for that?
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The county hasn’t kept up the maintenance on the building.
So what Chris?
Both the County top brass should either be fired or have to pay back the tax payers.
The Texans owner is a multi billionaire with plenty of billionaire friends. Why does he even need the tax payers?
He could do the entire project. Then the rodeo money goes into his pockets.
Both parties are costing the tax payers money. That is not acceptable.
Harris County wants a rodeo? Make it a viable one. That from a public agency is hard to comprehend or able to do.
A lot of this is the county not maintaining the park properly. This is like anything else, they say whatever they need to get the voters to approve the new taxes and bonds to get it built, but they don’t carry enough money for the operations and maintenance because if they did it would not have approved it. Now they have to go back to the voters for new bonds and taxes.
That’s when the tax payers should say:
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Greed all over
We gotta pay the players on college
Now those same players play for billionaires who want to get things for free but some of those billionaires are funding the same college teams
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The Texans need to hold Harris County’s feet to the fire. Harris County does not have the money, so they will ask the Harris County voting public to bail them out. Harris County, the Texans and the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo will have an advertising blitz to vote yes to a bond to refurbish NRG Stadium. No one knows how that vote would go.
If a new city enters the picture, offering a shiny new state-of-the-art stadium, more tax breaks than even Amazon accountants know about, and a paid relocation, this whole dynamic changes substantially. Having lived through the Oilers debacle, there is nothing that turns off the fans more than the thought of being blackmailed into a decision.
Abso-f’n-lutely NOT
Never forget how Bud Adams snaked us for millions in improvements to the dome before moving to Nashville.
Anyone who votes for a bond / tax increase for this needs to be committed.
It seems to me that all they need is to plant some palm trees.
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Good, they can build a new stadium. They are welcome to pay for it.
There is a reason there are no multi-use stadiums left, the Astrodome was crappy for football and terrible for baseball no amount of remodeling was ever going to fix that. NRG is not the Astrodome, it does not have the structural issues the Astrodome had as far as remodeling.
We can all look back in fondness for the Astrodome but I remember going to games in the late 80s and early 90 it was still a dump all they did with the remodel was add seats.
Also remember the Astros asked for a new stadium in August of 1995 and got it.
I’ve said from the beginning that Harris County will ultimately fork up between $500M and $1B within the next 5ish years. Texans will pay the rest whether they renovate or build new. It will likely get a bit ugly before there is a resolution - might be some threats to leave to outlying counties in Houston like Fort Bend county. Don’t expect it to get ugly enough to where Texans threaten to leave the greater Houston area. Don’t like it but it is what it is.
Cities just need to come to he realization that pro teams are going to want a new stadium every 25 years.
The Astrodome was built in 1965…didn’t get that new stadium at the 25 year mark and left when it was almost 30 years old.
They need to run a cost-profit margin analysis, for keeping the franchise in your city, but unless you have a rare historic venue i.e. Lambeau or Wrigley or Fenway…+/- 25 years is the shelf life.
Remember, when we went the Peach Bowl in the Georgia Dome and a brand new stadium was being built next to it?
The Georgia Dome opened in 1992 and closed in 2017…EXACTLY 25 years!
Novel idea…locate a Stadium as a centerpiece of a new mixed use master plan district (functional even in the offseason) and then use the tax proceeds towards part of that district to offset some of the tax on the residents or rental car/hotel tax.
That UT land would be perfect. Too bad UT sold it or else there could have been a claim for eminent domain back to the city.
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Where did all the PSL money go towards when they were bought by season ticket holders?
I would think they would use some of it for upgrades to the stadium.
The two other major sports have stadiums downtown and if the Texans found some land close to downtown, then having a sports complex similar to the Dallas Cowboy’s The Star in Frisco, TX could be shared with the other professional sports to provide a nice revenue stream. Just don’t expect the Astros or the Rockets to contribute a dime to build it.
Why?
They can get someone else to pay for it and keep their own profits for franchise valuation purposes
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It’s no different then our Cougar Pride donation money being used to improve the facilities, help pay tuition for athletes, pay coaches salaries, etc