OT: UH welcomes record-breaking 2024 Freshman class

Margaret Long Wisdom HS at Richmond and Voss

How’s this for ROI?

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Yeah that entire side of Houston has always been fairly well off.

It’s valuable real estate that’s in proximity to high end shopping centers

when you have great universities (Rice & UH) that serve an economically active city, naturally, it helps people move up the ladder

It’s one of the benefits of not being a college town

UH is only going up from here especially with Renu as president

Rice doesn’t have enough graduates to really have an effect on the Houston economy.

A good majority of their graduates are from out of state and move from Houston upon graduation.

Rice attracts a lot of HS student visits for tours. Decent number stay but not enough to move the needle much. Many go elsewhere for grad school. Maybe the Jones MBA attracts some.

JV did everything it could to zone out areas not in the city limits over the years - they sent everyone south of 290 and east of the beltway to cy fair - cy falls wherever to not send them to JV but they overlooked the abundant apartments nearby and the areas near the race track up N Houston Rosalyn - Fairbanks are strictly county with no type of regulations so they became a area for cheap housing

But look how how fast these new school districts have mediocre schools - especially in the county like Katy and cypress

They talk about Katy, Taylor, Cinco and 7 lakes, etc but Morton ranch, Mayde Creek, Paetow and this new school are majority minority quick

Same in cypress - cy creek was once the golden goose school but it has dropped and all the schools north of 529 ain’t nothing to write home about as those area aged bad or opened with cheap housing to begin with

Alvin ISD will be next in the southern area with all those rental communities popping up

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wrong type of ROI, Norbert
those type RARELY ever give back to the University, their family, that gave them that opportunity to be successful.

They aren’t involved students while they attend and they aren’t active alums after either.

There is a reason why we are #1 in that category of student yet dead last in every other metric related to involvement/ pride/ support/ mentorship/ etc
basically GIVING BACK!

Not Rocket Science 
here. ACCEPT students that WANT To be part of the UH family
not ones that only TAKE for their own self interests.

Gotta take the best students regardless of ethnicity or wealth. We can look for applicants who are involved in HS and give back but that’s only in holistic applicants. I understand that UT highly favors sports captains and other selective leadership.

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Are you saying that Wisdom High School is a good school?

The decline in The Woodlands has started. At least the areas closer to 45. Further down the parkway and Research will probably be able to hold out longer.

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JV in the 90’s was good overall. About 1/3 upper middle, 1/3 middle and 1/3 lower middle class. That’s why you have famous rappers coming from the same graduating class as Hollywood movie directors.

Robert E Lee in the 90’s was not good then and is not good now. Mostly first gen immigrants. If you had bosses living there in the 90’s then someone made a bad decision - them continuing to live there or you working for them lol.

My brother graduated from Lee in 1991
and that school went steadily downhill ever since.

Westside High more or less took all of Lee’s more affluent neighborhoods when it opened.

Wow. You’re actually poopooing an outstanding metric as social mobility? You’ve got the wrong priority.

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What’s causing all these downturns? We can’t talk about it.

I don’t know if it was downturns so much as the more affluent neighborhoods that had been zoned to Lee eventually got their own HISD school (Westside High), leaving Lee (later Margaret Wisdom High), with mostly poor neighborhoods in its zone.

In the most interesting twist of all, while HS football continued at Westside High, Wisdom High dropped football and began focusing on soccer.

Our celebration of taking poor students and turning them “middle class” will be our downfall because “only” targeting those type of students does NOT lead to a sustained culture.

We should accept some of those type of students but the FACT is that first generation college students have no family frame of reference to understand ALL of the ways that attending University is a MUTUAL exchange of value
they only focus on what THEY get from the exchange instead of what they CONTRIBUTE back.

I say this as someone whose parent was a FIRST GENERATION college student in our family. One that attended UH and had literally zero connection to UH
now future generations have a different connection.

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No
we aren’t a Community College
sorry

We have HCC and Lone Star College to fill that need.

WE ARE A 100 YEAR OLD P4 UNIVERSITY
time we act like one.

You may think it is a proud achievement
others use it to defend calling us Cougar High
you don’t get it.

While it is a notable metric
it isn’t one that tells us we’ve become a more prestigious destination University that has a pick of viable applicants.

We should aim to be more of a UCLA NOT the University of Memphis
or Boise State!

UH has been doing this for decades yet we are doing great, always on an upward trajectory. UH is unique. Not another me too university. Keep UH weird. We’re Houston.

I don’t like how you’re framing your opinion, but even with that thought, it’s not that easy to “target” certain kids that wouldn’t normal attend UH in the first place.

UH does get wealthy kids. It’s not the majority, but there are wealthier kids. Another large part of UH’s demographic are suburban kids.

The fact that UH does have many first gen college students is a good thing, because it’s helping to elevate the city of Houston, but it’s also going to get their kids to go to UH.