Those are terrible examples: these schools are the epitome of what I am talking about. They are basically private universities that demand public subsidies.
If you are not going to accept at least 50 percent of the students who apply, then you lose state funding. That simple. Why should a poor plumber or mail man be forced to pay for my son’s education? It is unfair.
The more I think about this, the clearer it seems that the answer is to hire better faculty and staff. I’m only half-joking when I say that the easiest path into the AAU would be to follow the model of Université Paris-Saclay and just make a bunch of Nobel laureates offers they can’t refuse. Just talk the government (or some other benefactor with bottomless pockets) into throwing a cool $6B or so at us to make it happen, and we’ll be one of the world’s top universities in no time at all. Heck, tell UT we’ll join their system and let them make us UT-Houston if they disburse it from the PUF.
Probably the same reason he paid for your son’s education for the first 18 years of your son’s life. Those arguments are pretty much all extensible. (And it’s also worth noting that both of those “poor” professions make more than most entry-level college grads.)
Non college going Texans’ tax dollars (~10% of UH funding) go for educating the state’s workforce and making Texas a competitive place to locate business and people.
I look forward to seeing if the 10% growth in FTIC freshmen was due to application growth, yield or strong combo of each. Last year our apps were flat despite being admitted to the Big 12.
Are you saying UH has an 18 % acceptance rate?
6k/33k = 18%
Come back to reality and what is generally accepted as the characteristics of a bad student. Coming up with cherry picked scenarios to make you feel good about having a bad take isn’t doing anyone any good.
6k are freshman enrolled… many more accepted but chose not to enroll for whatever reason
You are confusing admission rate with YIELD.
Yield is the percentage of those that applied that actually enrolled (18%).
The percentage admitted was more like 60+%.
A large percentage of those admitted will either matriculate elsewhere or otherwise not enroll.
Remember, most people apply more than one place, get accepted more than one place, and then choose from among the schools they were admitted to. They will not always choose UH.
For ‘23-24 fall, 30k apps, 21k admitted (70%) and 6090 enrolled (438 part-time) for 29% yield. A&M has low 40s yield and UT has high 40s yield. Rice had 46% yield last year.
Gosh.
UCLA, the ULTIMATE urban public research university, would be your WORST nightmare.
In 2022, they received 149,813 applications.
They admitted only 12,825 (8.6%).
ELITENESS PERSONIFIED!!!
University of Houston Sets Enrollment Record - University of Houston.
From this class of 2022 article it specifically says 29000 freshmen applied and we took 5k which represents 17% for freshmen only. Over 50k applied school wide per the article.
It’s confusing because like law and others said, kids are applying to maybe 3 to 5 to not have all eggs in 1 basket in case they get rejected by some. We are seeing UH as moving up the latter in being closer to top choice which is bc of all the improvements academically and 100% sure that the big12 effect kicked in bc we had a record freshmen application class once we got the big12 invite.
We may have accepted 60 or so % of that 29k then the 5k is the number who took us up on that offer or acceptance bc like law said each kid might be applying to many schools. The overall number of applications is rising which means we’re making the list for that many kids regardless of whether they enroll.
Imao
That’s double the apps that UT gets.
Maybe they should discourage applications so their acceptance rate looks more fair.
Many schools are doing the opposite, encouraging more applications precisely so that they can reject them, which improves the schools’ selectivity rankings.
Schools charge for applications so its a revenue source
I think the problem with your examples is that some showed they could do it, but for other reasons dropped out. I have met several like that. It is also not a high percentage of the students. However bring in ones that have not shown they can do it, rarely change up. That would leave a high percent of students in that group that may still drop out, but with likely college loans. It is also damaging to the good students there to bring in a lot that may not be good students just on a chance one or two may improve. Not a good mix for a high academic school.
Why should a good student be distracted by a bunch of maybe students in their classrooms. Which is a high chance allowing in any student that wants to give it a try.
I stand by having those students that did not exhibit good grades and habits should go to community college first to see if they can improve. That will save money and not impact the higher achieving students at UH that did earn their way in from good grades.
PS. I also believe that not all students should go to college as there are many very good and reputable jobs that do not need it and may be a better fit for a persons way of thinking, skills, and habits.
Everybody and their momma, cat, dog etc in the LA area apply to the same 3 to 5 schools like UCLA, Cal, UC Irvine, UC Davis, Cal State Fullerton etc.
This will inflate the application numbers.
I applied to UH, UT, A&M, UTSA, UT-Arlington, Texas State etc out of high school on my side.
The same people applying to UH will also apply the A&M, UT, UTSA, Sam Houston etc
First, I said a poor plumber, which is why I used a modifier.
Second, public primary schools are universal; they accept anyone and everyone. Colleges are not.
Third, I am not saying that every university should have open enrollment; however, I don’t believe in turning public universities into elite institutions such that only a handful of people can get in. It breeds resentment, and that resentment can and will be harnessed such that eventually, funding for all education will suffer. We are already seeing this in many states and have for many decades.
So, I am not opposed to public universities, in fact I am trying to save them.
In this state, there is a college for every type of person no matter the background, political view, social class, financial status, religion, focus of study, etc.
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