Private or public universities? Also, we all know that some colleges have better access to opportunities than others. Some guy who goes to Sul Ross will have less career opportunities than someone who goes to Texas State, who will have less opportunities than someone who goes to UH or TAMU, who have less opportunities than someone who goes to UT. That is just a fact.
Not saying that we can or should guarantee equal outcomes; however, the problem we are running into is that we have a lot of universities that, if not for the purported career enhancing opportunities, would have few if any students. Now, that is a question best left to social scientists and such, but ultimately, that may mean that a lot of these schools will close down.
If you want more upper-middle class and above students to go to UH, then you have to give them a way to feel socially superior to the average students. Itâs exactly why schools like Alabama gets a ton of rich kids to attend their otherwise mediocre-ranked academic school.
With that being said, UT/A&Mâs higher ranked schools like business and STEM are going to see a neutral demographic. Schools like agriculture, industrial distribution, economics, etc⊠are typically the schools with higher conservative-leaning demographics.
With UT, the more left-leaning demographics will be found in the liberal arts majors, etc⊠While the business and STEM schools will have the neutral demographics that attended private schools etc.
Youâd be surprised, although the trend that @EastCoastCoog is describing is more present in the Deep South than it is elsewhere. But even in California, I know the UC System has gotten some heat over its selectivity. And the State of Michiganâs contributions to the University thereof have been diminishing for some time now, to the extent that it does operate in a way thatâs meaningfully close to private schools.
If you ever go to Colonial Williamsburg, and then walk next door to the William and Mary campus, youâd never in a billion, KILLION years guess that thatâs a public university.
When you set foot on campus, you honestly feel like youâre on the campus of an northeastern liberal arts college and not a public U. That said, W&M is indeed a public U in the State of Virginia!
A&M used to be mostly white then a few yrs ago 65% then now 51%.
I think we just need to duplicate their fish camp and work of our culture of support bc this shows regardless of race, they get the support so our argument that we have too many international kids that donât support can be changed. UH needs to work on fish camps etc bc the new AD wants ideas and support in all ways helps.
Fine then. ShanghaiRanking (ARWU), QS-Ranking, Times Higher Education, and Forbes all have them ranked at lower tiers, too. LSU is a bad school, any way you slice it.
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Baylor is probably the most accessible of the local private schools, my wife thought about going there, her parents are alumni, Baylor would have covered half her tuition with scholarships. TCU and SMU are where you send your rich kids to find other rich kids to marry. My mom spent a semester at TCU and said the education was really no different and once she looked at the finances as an adult she could not justify having her dad spend the extra money, so she transferred to UH.
As the financial aspect of going to a university has increased, TCU shifted their student base a lot over the last 20 or so years. It was much more middle and upper middle class students 30/40 years ago with some wealthy students mixed in. Now definitely about the money with recruiting.
Thereâs a hiearchy pecking order in the level of Universities.
At the bottom of the ladder is degree factories that almost have to take anyone and at lower rates to A) grow their non existent brand and B) cover operating costs and the top of the ladder are the centuries old Ivy League level schools that can be as selective as they want as their reputation speaks for itself.
The University of Houston has immensely moved up that ladder since the 70s/80s, soâŠwhy would we need to take the same type of student when we were closer to the degree factory reputation?
We donât, we are now one of ONLY 68 + 1 Power # Universities in the US. To the Ivies that is inconsequential but to UH, that shows we have elevated both academicically and athletically.
So, sure, our University leaders have earned the right to be more selective in accepting the type of student that is aligned with the vision theyâve worked so hard to bring to reality.
You can also⊠Gamble on the students, too ya know.
Iâm finishing my PhD next year.
I got into my program with a 2.50 GPA. Right at the minimum. Took an A to bring it up to the exact minimum.
Iâm up for raising standards, but that doesnât mean nobody should have a chance. If they donât make it in, give them a way in, let them still be a Coog, they can find a way in.
Left off Baylor. BU is a great school. Basically the Baptist version of ND; if you are a church-going Protestant whose faith has some meaning to you, there are few schools better than Baylor.
I would say UT is way less working class than or less liberal than you suggest, and that TAMU is not as suburban as you would think and not as RW as it used to be.
