Yeah, we’re a Houston school. The rest of the state ain’t got nothin to do with it.
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Other than the fact that the University of Houston is a STATE university in Texas, and, moreover, is located in the largest city of that state?
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except for the fact the STATE of Texas, for 98% of our existence, has said…
FUND YOUR OWN D#$N SCHOOL!
Screw Texas… we are the University OF Houston
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And last I checked, the University of Houston is indeed located in TX, and the Governor of TX appoints every member of its Board of Regents, which suggests that UH has a lot to do with TX, and vice-versa.
Our big spirit org (the Frontiersmen), doesn’t wear dusters and cowboy hats, and run across the field with a big Texas flag after TDs for nothing ya know!
If that doesn’t prove that Houston has close ties to the State of Texas, then what would?
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Frontier Fiesta, and the Frontiersmen, was created when we were a private school…bad example
Yet they are STILL ALIVE today, with FF being the school’s BIGGEST party, for all intents and purposes.
Which makes them VERY contemporary examples of our TEXAS links, and as such, VERY relevant on the issue.
Again, if Houston has nothing to do with TX, then why are we running a TX flag across the field every time we score?
Riddle me that one Batman.
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I’m not disputing that we are not IN the state of Texas but are school is the University of a City and not a University of a State or a State Directional/ technical, or other example.
Furthermore, the STATE, has purposely underfunded or NOT FUNDED us at all for decades so THEY definitely didn’t regard us as anything more than a city school.
Yes the Frontiersman do it…but they started BEFORE we became a public City School.
Remember we came "this close’ to not even being a City School…Our name was almost “Cullen University”
If the Frontiersmen doing what they do TODAY isn’t relevant to establishing that UH TODAY has a lot to do with Texas, then I dunno what would be.
Bottom line: what the Frontiersmen do today IS relevant to establishing that UH has a lot to do with Texas in the present; it DOES NOT matter if that connection started in the distant past when UH wasn’t a state U. That’s an irrelevant red herring.
What matters is what is going on TODAY…and what the Frontiersmen do TODAY shows our present Texas ties; doesn’t matter if what they do today started long ago; that just makes the ties THAT MUCH DEEPER and THAT MUCH MORE HISTORIC.
And at least since the 1960s, we’ve been getting state funding, even if we weren’t a public flagship. If that doesn’t show that we’ve had a lot to do with Texas over multiple generations, then again, I dunno what would. Doesn’t matter if we don’t get enough public funding or as much funding as a few other schools do. That DOES NOT abrogate our cancel our obvious ties to Texas, and DOES NOT even suggest, much less establish, that we have nothing to do with the state of Texas.
Hell, SFA and SamHouston have less state funding that UH. Does that mean that they either have nothing to do with Texas, or even less to do with TX than UH? It would if we were to follow YOUR logic.
Come on now.
That’s dumb.
Just stop.
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Our basketball team’s slogan is #ForTheCity, not #ForTheState. Our football team was fueled by the #HTownTakeover, not the #TexasTakeover. We represent and play for Houston, not Texas.
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Yet we run the TEXAS flag across the field when we score, NOT the City of Houston flag, and our campus’ biggest party and major spirit org have an OBVIOUS…TEXAS theme.
And of course, we have a billion plus dollar endowment fund from the State of Texas, have our entire Board appointed by the Governor of Texas, and get other funding from the State of Texas as a Texas public university.
Sure. Given that, UH has nothing to do with the State of Texas; even our geography in that state is somehow just incidental or coincidental, right?
Come on now.
Again…don’t be dumb.
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We should change that.
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DUDE!
The Frontersmen is a STUDENT ORGANIZATION…they can carry a Filipino flag if they want to …as many ethnic student UH clubs do wave various flags,…that’s not what we are arguing.
We are talking about the official University which DOES NOT include ‘Texas’ in it’s formal name.
What a STUDENT ORGANIZATION does is beside the point.
Take the rest of the day off …you need your nap
Last I checked, our football team represents the WHOLE university.
And what do we do when they score?
We run a TEXAS flag across the field.
Period.
Full stop.
Case closed.
That…and our campus’ largest party and oldest most closely held tradition has a TEXAS theme, not an urban, Houston theme.
Enough said.
Definitely A LOT to do with Texas, given that.
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NO…the STUDENT ORGANIZATION runs a Texas Flag across the field
As T-Moar pointed out, THE UNIVERSITY runs slogans such as:
for the CITY
or
H-TOWN takeover
We are NOT the University of Texas @ Houston
Just stop
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Which is obviously something that the SCHOOL and the TEAM that represents the school approve of and have approved of and have endorsed for DECADES now.
Same with our campus’ biggest party and greatest tradition: Frontier Fiesta.
Sorry Bro.
But saying Houston has nothing to do with the State of Texas in the face of those FACTS is pretty darned dumb.
Period.
Full stop.
As for not being the “University of Texas at Houston,” SO??? Who said we were? How does that abrogate our nullify our Texas tradition(s), Texas geographical location, Texas funding, and status as a STATE university in the STATE of Texas?
Hint: IT DOESN’T!!! Nice try, but fail.
Lamar University isn’t the University of Texas at Beaumont now, is it?
Guess what. That does NOT mean it has nothing to do with the state of TX. It’s a TX public U, is located in TX, and gets Texas public funding. END OF STORY!!! That’s A LOT to do with the state.
UH…with the above factors, PLUS its TX flag at the games and Texas traditions (Frontier Fiesta) arguably has even closer ties to TX, comparatively speaking, given that.
Sorry but that’s a load of crap, with all due respect.
We are not a “municipal” university, nor are we HCC - doctoral granting branch. We are a STATE university, in the STATE of Texas, with several TEXAS traditions.
A couple of ad slogans HARDLY changes that.
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nobody say it has NOTHING to do with the State of Texas, or the United States of America, or North America, or Planet Earth but that our name…our very creation is that of a CITY SCHOOL.
We represent the City FIRST and State SECOND.
And once you throw in the fact THE STATE, themselves, have treated us like a city school by denying access to the PUF and limiting funding to a disgraceful level where we actually had to show up to Austin to BEG for funding every year then, and only then, will you understand why some of us want to celebrate the CITY over the STATE.
And I am one of them!
We aren’t Texas, we aren’t Texas A&M, we aren’t Texas Tech, we aren’t Texas State…are your neurons seeing the connection yet?
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Uhhhhh…
Relook your first sentence.
And then look at this quote from above from YOU:
That question implies that the University of Houston has nothing to do with the State of Texas. Otherwise, why would you ask it?
You were questioning what the University of Houston has to do with the State of Texas, within the context of UH’s logo being within the state of Texas, implying, of course, that UH and the State of Texas have nothing to do with each other and are mismatched in that regard.
So in the face of that DON’T claim that nobody said UH had nothing to do with the State of Texas. Your own words suggest a meaning or at least a reasonable interpretation to that effect, indicating that YOU said something very closely to that effect.
As for this theory that we represent the city first…
I wouldn’t say we represent the city first. Our team and its logo represent the SCHOOL, not the city or state.
And given that our school is located within the State of Texas, gets State funding, and has more than one longstanding TEXAS tradition, it’s stupid to question what the State of Texas has to do with the University of Houston, as YOU did (don’t deny it; that’s a direct quote Bro).
As for our school…I suppose you could argue our school represents the City of Houston, though other schools here (Rice, TSU, HCU, UST, etc.) might question our role in representing the city in any exclusive sense. You might have a fight on your hands in that regard.
But as a STATE university in the STATE of Texas, we are a part of the STATE’S executive branch, and that state’s executive branch leaders are elected by the people of the STATE of Texas, not merely the city.
That makes us a STATE entity first, and city entity, second at best, if at all.
We’re a STATE executive branch agency…NOT a city or municipal one.
At least get that much right, and when you get that right, we can dispense of any QUESTIONING of what the State of Texas has to do with the University of Houston, because it obviously has A LOT to do with it, given that this university is a TEXAS executive branch agency.
A couple of ad slogans HARDLY change that.
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YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN…
Obviously the University sits in Houston which sits in Texas BUT
The university was NOT created by the state…was NOT funded by the STATE…the STATE did NOT apply for a Land Grant school and then that was UH
NO!
The University of Houston was created at a LOCAL level and if anything, was ignored by the state of Texas.
Stop making this ONLY about Geography…
Doesn’t matter how it was created, or how it was initially funded.
It is now a STATE executive branch agency, NOT a city one, which means it has EVERYTHING to do with the State of Texas. And of course it gets state funding, and even has a billion plus endowment set aside from STATE taxpayer funds, not municipal funds.
This is a STATE school, NOT a municipal one.
The City doesn’t fund this school chiefly, the STATE does. And before that, we were a private school with TEXAS traditions like Frontier Fiesta. That gives us even more to do with the State of Texas. NEVER forget that or be mistaken about that.
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sometimes i think you just argue to argue
You, yourself, have wrote novels how we are NOT our State’s Flagship, how we are NOT our state’s Land Grant School and now you say we ARE aligned with our state when everything about our history says we were NOT a STATE creation
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