Sounds great! I agree in principle but in reality talent, natural ability, and the right opportunity is most critical to success. Can’t change my mind on that and a 2-4 season isn’t going to help the cause of changing it either.
That being said, it’s about control and being “in-control” for Holgorsen. His arrogance will never let him achieve even remote success in the same category with Meyer, Herman, and/or Lincoln Riley… not even Briles!
Look at players on the teams Urban Meyer won with… Look at some of the players that Lincoln Riley has dealt with… They swallowed their pride and won football games. Dana Holgorsen will make some fine men. Congratulations to him for that… But the funny thing is I do not think anyone thinks of Dana Holgorsen as a quality, moral person. Talking out of two sides of his mouth. I’m not impressed, and yes I’m cynical but I’m honest.
And one more thing… majority of fans on this board are disappointed with results and 2-4 record. But we’re going to praise Holgorsen for his principles and not putting forth his best talent to win… get real!!! The players aren’t putting forth their best effort at practice and he isn’t putting forth his best effort to win football games (I.e. redshirting our dark horse Heisman contender QB) yeah but he’s building a super “culture”
If my powers of observation worked the last few years, I have IMHO, seen receivers run deep routes, the come out for a relief receiver. Nothing new here. Run deep, bench, run deep, bench, run deep, bench . . . . . maybe I’m confused, but I do believe this is what I have been observing these past few years . . . . .
King threw his Heisman opportunity away in the first couple of games.
Some people see the glass half full, some see it half empty, but it appears to me you see the glass as the aftermath of a nuclear explosion in a desert . . . . .
I remember, many years back, watching an “Oilers” practice. Only one defensive lineman put out any effort during the practice. He was Elvin Bethea, one of the best ever. He was excellent, IMHO, because he played the way he practiced . . . . . effort ='s results . . . . .
So maybe if he practices harder he will play more, and even play better. I just can’t fathom why people are willing to put up with lack of effort in practice – that sets up a bad culture where others think, “Why should I bust my butt, when that guy slacks off and gets to start?” So next thing you know more are slacking off and the team goes south. Maybe the coaches should appease the slackers and tell them to just take the week off and show up well rested for the game and I will start you? NOT!
I just cannot buy into a culture where lack of effort in practice earns a spot in the starting lineup. I don’t care who you are. It in the daily effort of practice where the team learns to be a team and trust in the fact that the guy next to you is going to do his job. If you don’t practice hard as a unit, it’s very difficult to be a good unit in pressure situations. Played football for 11 years of my life. Never appreciated a teammate that did not give 100% in practice.
Have you seen how frequently our O-line collapses? That’s gonna determine how frequently Tune goes deep.
As far as Stevenson, he has a third of our team completions year to date. How much more field time does he need?
And bad practice guys are not good game guys. That’s an Internet myth. If you suck in practice you will eventually suck in games. Question: if a guy doesn’t give a 100% in practice and he still plays then why make him practice at all?
Here is the thing. I just watched the replay of the last drive of the 1st half: the receiver corp tanked on Tune! Follow me…Smith threw a perfect strike the previous series for a TD. Tune comes back in. Throws a perfect strike to the TE for a 1st down which is dropped…throws a perfect throw to Stevenson which he one-handedly “dropped”. He either ‘dropped’ the ball due to 1.) defender was holding his other hand which I admit was hard to see from the camera; 2.) he meant to ‘drop’ the ball. Given his lack of outrage after the play, I favor the the #2 possibility. Tune later throws a perfect pass to a wide open Smith (play designed by Coach H) which he…dropped. Our vaunted punt returner missed the ball? This all occurred in less than 2 minutes. The first half ends on that depressing performance.
Remember a few years ago under an under-performing Coach Levine against UCF when O’Korn threw and threw, and Greenberry actually shuttled a good throw to his gut into the arms of the UCF defender, leading to an interception and ultimately to Greg Ward being QB?
Same process going on here. Smith wants to be QB. Receivers want Smith to be QB. Tune is hurt. Coach is insisting on Tune, even though Smith tossed the perfect TD pass minutes before. Receivers respond, wanting to see more Smith. Coach is having none of that, Tune it is.
Levine was fighting for his job, and passed the torch off to Ward (smart move) because what else? (We all remember the rumors afterwards, probably false, about his benching). Coach H has his job secured, and time to build his own system. He is not going to be moved by the present players. For better or for worse, professional coaches look for QB’s like O’Korn and Tune, even though Ward and maybe Smith (much less King) may be better given the make-up of the team (ie the O-Line). Coach H’s offense is not like Applewhite’s, nor Brile’s…it is systematic. King never had that kind of demand before, and I bet neither did Smith.
Just my observations…I hope the receivers play all out for the team, regardless of their preferences, but football, like life itself, has its own complications. Too bad none of the coaches so far have given B. Smith an honest chance. Maybe he doesn’t do well with the playbook in practices? King did not either, it seems, or why would he be redshirting? Go Coogs! Beat UConn, and especially SMU and Memphis! (We will BE there!)
Its not a conspiracy…I played ball…players know how to display their displeasure at a coach’s decisions…what about you coach? Never seen that? Either way, I don’t know what happened, just my opinion (and experience) at play. I just look at the historical record, and thus have an opinion, as right or wrong as it may be. But I am not just making stuff up. You should know better, if you are a coach at anything. No hard feelings.
Nope, just in that situation, it was kind of strange. We had the chance to take the lead, with the possession in the 2nd half, and they wiffed. I like football. I watch football. I comment on football. And you? Clearly the situation is that you should play WR. Or not comment if you have nothing meaningful to say.
Will be using from now on.