I’m okay with that, from what I know about
the case ( just based on what I’ve read in the press)
I wonder if “Old Sparky” at Sing Sing still works
If found guilty, he won’t be executed. He’ll take a plea deal and get life without parole.
Wouldn’t he have to take the plea deal before being found guilty?
Depends on if it’s a bifurcated trial or not.
In TX, most criminal trials are bifurcated, meaning guilt/innocence are tried first, and then, IF the state wins, they try punishment phase separately.
Quite often, once a guy is convicted in the guilty/innocence phase, we’ll work out a deal for punishment. Other times, we litigate it.
Not sure what the rules in federal court are on that though. As I recall, didn’t Liz Holmes have separate guilt/innocence and punishment trials?
Anyway, if the trial is bifurcated, he could conceivably be convicted of murder, and then work out a life without parole plea deal for punishment.
We’ll see.
I think plea deals can even be made on the appeal of a conviction, sometimes.
But generally agree with your take.
Justice is messy.
AI Overview
Yes, plea deals can be made even after a conviction, especially if the defendant appeals the conviction and the argument appears to have merit, as a prosecutor might be willing to negotiate to avoid the costs and effort of a potential retrial.
Here’s a more detailed explanation:
- Plea Bargains During the Appeal Process:
A defendant can negotiate a plea bargain with a prosecutor at any stage of a criminal case, including after a conviction and during the appeal process.
- Reasons for Plea Deals After Conviction:
If a defendant appeals a conviction, the prosecutor might be open to a plea bargain to avoid the potential costs and effort of a retrial, especially if the appeal appears to have merit.
As the preponderance of evidence begins to weigh against him, his legal team should suggest he take the deal before the verdict.
JMO, no one should be given the death penalty if the evidence is circumstantial, but I believe in this case, if the evidence against him is incontrovertible, he should be given the death penalty.
If he turns down the deal, he deserves what is handed down by the jury or judge.
Chances are he’ll be on death role for twenty years before the sentence is carried out.
If he gets executed, is he going to will his eyebrows to someone?
He’s popular and just might have enough jurors to free him without conviction.
He will live…they’re going to make him a martyr…
Just do a “Beer for my Horses.”
I wish the jury could sentence the judge and the attorneys too
If that were to happen, the judge might decide to overturn the verdict and sentence Mangione.
Temporary insanity…
This might be sliding into politics so delete it if needed…
Insurance should not be a publicly traded, for profit business, in this country that takes in $4.4 trillion/year in tax revenue.
Mutual companies make more sense. My company is a mutual, for the benefit of the policyowners.
The government made it difficult to remain a mutual with the tax laws they instituted. Many formerly great mutuals (Prudential, John Hancock, MetLife, MONY) are now publicly traded
An eye for an eye. Same for the rich as the poor.