The Unbreakable Game | WVU @ UH | 11AM November 1st | FS1

He liked that question a lot more than the next one I asked about what he was doing on 4th and 13.

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There were definitely some significant coaching blunders made in the last couple of minutes that kept ASU alive.

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I’m glad you asked that question. Not sure many people knew wtf we were trying to do in that play, and coach explained his thought process very clearly.

Coach also mentioned that maybe the team should’ve stepped on the pedal for longer before trying to lock in the win.

He also mentioned how they should probably use the RBs more than having Weigman do so many QB draws.

Good conference overall, he answered all the questions I had after the game, at least.

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Rain & cold at 11 am lol

While it’s hard to avoid coach speak totally, I think CWF is good at answering questions sincerely. He breaks down a fair amount of football on the coaches show too.

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Willie is genuine. When he’s answering with ā€œCoach Speakā€, it’s typically because there’s an upcoming game and he doesn’t want to ā€œshow his handā€ to opponents.

When a question is sincere, he is sincere in his response. He definitely doesn’t avoid questions, and never throws his players, coaches, or even opponents for that matter, under the bus.

He’s a Class Act !

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Ditto that

Go Coogs!

WVU fans will still blame Holgorsen after the loss.

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We will win big vs The Mountaineers.

At 8-1 we then are back to being what we should be.

Willieball!

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My buddy’s company has tickets in the 300s for this game…

I have a feeling it’s going to be a good turnout Saturday!

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Glad you asked it tho, Ryan. It was a WTF kinda play. Especially because ASU was able to gain serious momentum after that & nearly gets a chance to take over the game.

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What was his answer for that decision?

He basically laid out a few reasons (none that made it better imo) but I get the feeling he was just covering for Nagle. At least he recognized it wasn’t good and didn’t get defensive. That’s my take

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In my opinion, we were too far for a FG and too close to punt. Odds are, if we punt, ASU gets the ball on the 20. We went for it, didn’t get it and ASU took over on the 30. It’s only a 10 yard difference. The way our defense played, I’d take that risk too.

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I know listening to Dana clear his throat for years probably turned people off the pressers and coaches show but I think CWF does a better job giving listeners some insight and tries to answer questions asked. It’s usually an informative listen.

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Bringing 2. One that hasn’t been to a game since last year and an USC alum that’s been following Coog basketball and this year’s football because of Weigman.

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Then throw a 15 yard pass to pick up the first, not a bomb close to the end zone that was a lower chance completion…NOT a good call on 4th and 13…

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Oh well. We won. No big deal.

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What recruits will be at the WVU games?

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The actual play in question was a 6 yard completion on 4th and 13. Nobody was open downfield and Weigman checked it down and took a couple of yards of field position.

Converting that would have given us the ball in field goal range with 7 minutes left and a 15-point lead; the game would have effectively been over. It’s an extremely high-reward gamble that only risks like 15 yards of field

Punching some numbers into Pro Football Reference’s Win Probability calculator, punting to the 5 would have given ASU about a 4% chance of winning, while a touchback would have given them a 7% chance of winning and getting 0 yards would have given them a roughly 8% chance of winning. On the other hand, converting a first down to the 30 yard line would have given us a 99.6% chance of winning.

Given that a team attempting a 4th-and-13 has about a 22% chance of converting, we can do some pretty inelegant back-of-the-envelope math here, and see that attempting the 4th down gives us very roughly a .22 * .996 + .78 * .92 = .9367 = 93.67% chance of winning. The chance of a punt being a touchback from the 36 isn’t well-established, but let’s say there’s a 50% chance of it being downed at the 5 and a 50% chance of it being a touchback, that’s a 94.5% chance of winning. The expected win probabilities even out somewhere around a 78% chance that the punt is a touchback.

(Interestingly, converting a first down actually gives you a higher probability of winning than making a Field Goal does there. But Sanchez is also 2/5 on Field Goals from 50+ over his career, and this would have matched his career long.)

Depending on what the team believed about their offense vs ASU’s defense specifically, or their punter and special teams coverage specifically, it’s totally a defensible call.

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