not really. remember when people kept saying UH is the best G5 job in cfb? In order to have that title you should be competing every single season. there should be no reason why this program shouldnt be competing for aac titles every season.
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That statement is still 100% accurate, it is the best job in the G5. I might add in response to Woods post that fan is short for âfanaticâ and bias and delusion are par for the course. Itâs my absolute favorite thing about college football. If UCF were absolutely rational last year they wouldnât have claimed a national title. If Kansas fans were absolutely rational they wouldnât keep buying tickets. Weâre good enough to go head to head with anyone in the country, so we have the right to be a little biased and delusional about the possibility of a national title.
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Whatâs the title of this thread?
âHollywood Stars I Have Known?â
Why not? I believe UCF was ranked number one by one of the polls that the NCAA recognizes to determine a National Champion. The ESPN invitational is not recognized, it is the agreement for certain entities to vote the winner number one in a poll that makes the winner the champion.
Folks just skip past that point. Sumlin sure was a crappy coach when he didnât have Case in '10. QB play was pretty terrible last year. We benched two starters and then got to the 3rd guy, and he hadnât been taking snaps at the position. We lost some great defensive players in Tyus Bowser (2nd round pick), Steve Taylor (1st Team All-AAC), Howard Wilson (drafted), Brandon Wilson (drafted), and Cam Malveaux (made an NFL roster and played). I said before the season that if Kyle Allen played really well we might win as many as 9-10 games, but that if he struggled weâd end up around 7-5. I guess being benched after the third game qualifies as struggling. I think Applewhite made some mistakes last year, but Iâm a Monday morning QB like all of you. Still, I would have gone for it on fourth against Memphis. I would have changed the game plan against Tulane. But we did beat a couple of decent to good teams on the road in USF, Arizona, and Temple.
I liked Applewhite as coach, not because I thought he was Mike Leach II or some brilliant strategist. I thought he was a good football guy (heâs worked for some great coaches), but more than anything else I thought he would be able to get a lot of talent to UH. As of now we have TEN players on the roster who have been on a national Top 300 list as a recruit. Youâd have to go back to Yeoman or Pardee to find that kind of talent (yes, the '15 and even '16 teams were loaded, but B. and H. Wilson, Steve Taylor, Elandon Roberts, etc. werenât exactly heralded guys that could have gone anywhere) on Cullen Boulevard. We also have a first-rate OC and OL coach. Iâm very optimistic about the program. Barring major injuries, we should strongly contend for the AAC title and the Fiesta Bowl this year.
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I canât believe Iâm going to compare Sumlin positively over anyone because heâs so overrated, but these comments are ridiculous
- Keenum was hurt during the season. Iâm sure its much more difficult to adjust the offense mid season than Spring training (although Baylor and Briles did a masterful job a few seasons ago when pretty much all their roster QBs got hurt)
- While there was competition for the starting spot, most of what I read was Allen was the projected starter. If the coaches canât get the projected starter ready and adjust the offense to the starterâs skill set, thatâs on the coaches
- Which brings me to my biggest point, Case Keenum wouldnât have made a huge difference in last yearâs offense. Why? Because we would have had him running the ball first because thatâs what the offense was designed to do. We took a guy in Allen with an NFL level arm and average wheels and put him in an offense the requires a QB to run effectively for it to be successful.
As overrated as Sumlin is, he was smart enough to use Keenumâs arm and throw the ball. Last year we werenât smart enough to do that with Allen
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NTXCoog, you couldnât more right with your points made in #2 and #3. I was mystified at the offense we ran considering it only works well with a mobile QB that can run play option. I will also add that everyone knew the offensive line was a concern going into the season so it made even less sense to put an offense on the field that didnât try to get the ball out of the QBâs hands quickly.
Thankfully the OL coach from last year is gone and we have a new OC that understands the concept of up tempo and getting the ball out of the QBâs hands quickly to avoid sacks while finding playmakers in open space to make big plays.
No, itâs not âridiculousâ to compare changing QBs in the 4th gameâas UH did in '10 and '17. We threw 52 passes against Tech. Thatâs adjusting the offense for a passing QB. The bottom line is we had poor QB play last year and werenât that good. One can accept that or sit around and bitch about âbad coachingâ all the time. Just not invested in venting or fans who know better, but to each his own.
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We also didnât have any speed at WR. We only had possession WRs and no one who could spread the field.
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Or accept bad coaching and blame it on every other factor.
Herman took a Levine team and won a peach bowl. Yet before Levine was fired too many folks were making excuses for him.
The fact is, major makes good money and has been in the business long enough to not make boneheaded mistakes during games.
Granted, the coaching application pool was restricted because of the ego of not wanting to be a stepping stone again, but we lost games embarrassingly last year.
The result is a very low paid attendance average for the season because a big chunk of the fan base wonât accept excuses.
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didnt fertita offer more money to herman than texas did?
Youre thinking of coaching changes as a good thing because youve become used to it. But, those star kids wont commit to one coach for 1-2 seasons and then have their production go down when it matters in their Jr Sr year. There is no âEgoâ in not wanting to be a stepping stone. All things take time, if not these other BIG programs wouldnt retain their coaches for as long as they do with the amount of wins they make. (i.e Ohio, Michigan, Etc).
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Sumlin also lost his backup in the same game. That was a perfect crapstorm.
i agree with this post but you forgot one thing. when case went down the only qbâs we had were true freshmen (piland and broadway). applewhite had allen and postma last season. funny how when herman had postma he was a very good QB. when applewhite coaches him he regress. gee i wonder why?
Posta is the equivalent of a Ken Giles
When hes good, hes good. When hes bad, hes terrible. Doesnât matter who is coaching.
He played good against Memphis despite the final play. He also made a decent comeback against Tech.
Postma was the QB during the UCONN loss and got pulled for an injured Greg Ward late because of his ineffectiveness. He was good at times and was not so good at others. Didnât matter the coach.
Some of last year was the offense, some the defense, and some was the last couple years of Levineâs bad recruiting classes coming home to roost. The man recruited well his first two seasons, but it tailed off after that.
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postma got pulled for ward because he injured his leg.
Did Postma catch on with a pro team anywhere?
Diehard, we had Cotton Turner after Case, and he went down in the same game (UCLA). Turner was a good serviceable quarterback with experience and a track record. Iâm no Sumlin apologist, but he was dealt a 1-2 punch to the QB position. In that UCLA game, we went from a loaded QB roster with an experienced backup to two freshmen who were not expected to play.
With Postma, he did the unexpected when he came in to replace Ward and was successful because he was a really good athlete. Our opponents did not know anything about him and other teams were not expecting such a good athlete. Once other teams found out what he was, they made adjustments and exposed his limitations as quarterback.
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