UT Donors are Big Mad about The Eyes

Two points Law:

  1. I guess you didn’t read my post regarding the report this week that is due out is reporting they have found no ties to Lee regarding that phrase and they researched it at the university that Lee was president. Regardless, the ties to Lee were weak as even Solomon pointed out and most recognize. The UT history professors now documents this fact that the ties to Lee are now in question. I posted the link to his history tour where he discusses this.

  2. The two students who created the song did use the old minstrel song of “I’ve Been Working on the Railroad,” but they didn’t use the words of that song. The documented history of the creation of the scone clearly states their intent was the creation of a spirt song because UT did not have one at the time. Interesting that you didn’t post this version that most of us are use too growing up.

As stated and the link posted above, the UT history professor has pointed out far more issues with UT’s racial history then their spirt song and ala mater.

We’ll see what the commission’s report contains this week when distributed. If the railroad song is that big of deal maybe they change the music. The lyrics and intent is pretty clean.

The song you posted was a later SANITIZED version of the song.

It was NOT the version of the song that was in use at the time, and was not the song used by UT to create its own school song.

The song that was in use at the time that UT created its song is the one that I posted. It was first published in 1894, but was in use in minstrel shows well before that according to one Princeton U. website, and its racist lyrics and minstrel show history would have been familiar to the writers of “The Eyes of Texas.” That’s where, in the early 1900s, less than a decade after its publication, UT sought inspiration for its own song.

And of course…that makes perfect sense, when one considers how UT decided to introduce the song (i.e., at a blackface minstrel show held on campus…UGH!!!).

Regarding the Lee connection, I agree it is now in dispute, HOWEVER, as far back as the 1930s, that was UT’s official position in its own documents: that it was a paraphrase of a Lee quote.

Interesting how they are now trying to walk that back, eh?

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Amazing how enthralled the Coog fan base is with Longhorn nation. :grin: :upside_down_face: Just keeps going going.

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I was just thinking this. Lol

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I’m just messing w them. Just thk it’s funny how much thought, research being put into it for a School that a large portion of Coogs fan base has ZERO interest in.

I would say that a lot of Coogs are interested in anything that their rivals (like UT) may be doing which would be a) an embarrassment to said rival, and b) a “one-upmanship” selling point that we might have on said rival.

This is just such a case…hence the attention we’ve been giving it.

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I wouldn’t say UH/UT are rivals in any Sport at this particular point in time. But no matter…carry on pls.

Edit: usually I read the opposite on these boards. They could care less what’s going on in 40 acres.
Only 2 sports that rt now could/will compete against UT for athletes is Men’s Basketball & Track/Field.

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I’d prefer to see more traffic on the FB boards regarding Spring football camp, QB development, assistant coaches, rumint regarding possible AAC football invites, 8-team college football playoffs, TV revenue for UH, analysis of CDH’s performance to date, crappy food/high prices at TDECU …basically anything discussing UH football versus whining about the Longhorns.

Also, is UH keeping up with the conference Joneses? Cincy, Memphis, SMU, UCF, etc. when it comes to facilities, S&C, outreach to HS coaches, etc.

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Thisssss! +1

Our baseball team competed against UT just this past weekend.

And I think that most people here consider UT and aTm to be our most hated enemies.

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Clayton Tune’s opinion on palm trees.

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There is one thing that is certain about this UT song we are talking about.

It will change. Six months, six years. It will change.

I care as much about this as I do about the Royal Family’s issues :sunglasses:

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First time they played UT in baseball since 2013. Now u change from rival to enemy. Really it’s ok Law, pls y’all cont what y’all are discussing. I get zero involved in those type discussions, politics etc. Just thought it was curious that it was the only thg going on at the Football side of thgs.
I’ll exit now bk to Basketball.
#GoCoogs

You might be one of the few here that doesn’t consider UT a rival or an enemy (or both).

That’s why most of us revel in UT’s embarrassment here.

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Law,

So your motivation is to purely make the Whorns look bad with your arguments.

No, they do that to themselves.

My job is to expose their shame so that we may revel in it.

And, at the same time, make a stand for justice.

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They were one of our rivals at one time, but we haven’t played them in football in 20yrs so thats gone now. Its been almost as long since we played them in mens basketball other than that CBI game and the only reason that happened is they didn’t have any choice. I know we have played them in baseball, but lets be honest the non revenue sports don’t really move the needle to 90% of the fanbase.

All this time I thought they stole the song from the 1950’s TV series, “The Tales of the Texas Rangers.”

When most of our fan base looks for a team to hate, they still look to UT and aTm before all others.

As such, they are still our arch rivals and enemies, regardless of how often we may play them.

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