Ware, Klingler, Kolb, Keenum, Ward, King, Weigman

Gross exaggeration on several levels.

Doesn’t excuse for your lack of Cougar history and research. Speaks of your youth, naïveté or laziness.

Have you bothered to read Jerry Wizig’s “Eat’em up Cougars” so you’ll be better informed, or, have you decided to remain in a state of ignorance?

News flash.

Ware is not the gold standard. He played in an offense that few teams could defend. The Run & Shoot was novel and unique in its day. Fortunate for UH, Jack Pardee was smart enough to implement it into the Coog offense. Ware prospered.

Thank you, Mouse Davis and John Jenkins.

The Heisman Trophy is a great award and statistically Ware deserved to win. The general thought of winning the Heisman is that the winner will go on to have a long, successful NFL career. That’s why most are drafted high in the draft.

Did Ware go on to have a long, successful NFL career?

Also the Heisman Trophy is not necessarily given to the best athlete. Often it’s given to the player with the best stats that one year and Ware’s stats were impressive for 1989.

Fortunately, Ware found his true calling as an NFL color commentator, and he’s very good in that role and forged a successful career.

There is no certainty that the Heisman Trophy winner will find success at the next level.

Same with Klingler, although it should be noted, the Bengals were a god awful team.

By any current standards of measurement, Keenum was a better QB and proved it collegiately and at the next level. If there was time travel, how would Keenum perform in the R&S in 1989?

Heisman to Keenum!!

Keenum still holds several lofty collegiate records and 11 years later, he’s still on an NFL roster.

Whether you like it or not, a list of K/W starting UH quarterbacks should include Dick Woodall and Jimmy Klingler, even though you choose to think otherwise.

Leather helmets? ROTFLMAO. :joy:

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Ehhh… W/L is kind of relevant for QBs…

Perhaps, but not exclusively. W/L also depends on the performance of the other 10 players on offense and the 11 on defense.

QB is only one player.

They often get too much credit for wins and blame for losses.

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You can add that David 100% deserved the Heisman in 1990. He had an amazing season even though we were on probation. It took a major “earthquake” for Andre to win it for his 1989 season even though other SWC campaigned against him and UH.
Regarding earlier UH history you nailed it. Graythecoog, go ahead and educate yourself about UH. I promise you it will open up a much better perspective of what UH is capable off. Meaning UH is indeed capable of winning the National Championship. As an independent we were a National powerhouse beating on a yearly basis other National programs. That “story” IMO has been ignored and this has cost us dearly. We ought to be proud of our heritage and especially for the UH athletes that represented us. By ignoring them we “spit” on our past.

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