Ware, Klingler, Kolb, Keenum, Ward, King, Weigman

Gross exaggeration on several levels.

Doesn’t excuse for your lack of Cougar history and research. Speaks of your youth, naïveté or laziness.

Have you bothered to read Jerry Wizig’s “Eat’em up Cougars” so you’ll be better informed, or, have you decided to remain in a state of ignorance?

News flash.

Ware is not the gold standard. He played in an offense that few teams could defend. The Run & Shoot was novel and unique in its day. Fortunate for UH, Jack Pardee was smart enough to implement it into the Coog offense. Ware prospered.

Thank you, Mouse Davis and John Jenkins.

The Heisman Trophy is a great award and statistically Ware deserved to win. The general thought of winning the Heisman is that the winner will go on to have a long, successful NFL career. That’s why most are drafted high in the draft.

Did Ware go on to have a long, successful NFL career?

Also the Heisman Trophy is not necessarily given to the best athlete. Often it’s given to the player with the best stats that one year and Ware’s stats were impressive for 1989.

Fortunately, Ware found his true calling as an NFL color commentator, and he’s very good in that role and forged a successful career.

There is no certainty that the Heisman Trophy winner will find success at the next level.

Same with Klingler, although it should be noted, the Bengals were a god awful team.

By any current standards of measurement, Keenum was a better QB and proved it collegiately and at the next level. If there was time travel, how would Keenum perform in the R&S in 1989?

Heisman to Keenum!!

Keenum still holds several lofty collegiate records and 11 years later, he’s still on an NFL roster.

Whether you like it or not, a list of K/W starting UH quarterbacks should include Dick Woodall and Jimmy Klingler, even though you choose to think otherwise.

Leather helmets? ROTFLMAO. :joy:

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Ehhh… W/L is kind of relevant for QBs…

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Perhaps, but not exclusively. W/L also depends on the performance of the other 10 players on offense and the 11 on defense.

QB is only one player.

They often get too much credit for wins and blame for losses.

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You can add that David 100% deserved the Heisman in 1990. He had an amazing season even though we were on probation. It took a major “earthquake” for Andre to win it for his 1989 season even though other SWC campaigned against him and UH.
Regarding earlier UH history you nailed it. Graythecoog, go ahead and educate yourself about UH. I promise you it will open up a much better perspective of what UH is capable off. Meaning UH is indeed capable of winning the National Championship. As an independent we were a National powerhouse beating on a yearly basis other National programs. That “story” IMO has been ignored and this has cost us dearly. We ought to be proud of our heritage and especially for the UH athletes that represented us. By ignoring them we “spit” on our past.

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https://x.com/Joseph_Duarte/status/2104636801969463351

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King does not belong on any Cougar list. PERIOD! FULL STOP!

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I’ve been saying it!

He did have one great season for UH, though…

Tune

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King made a business decision by transferring to Miami. King and Holgorsen were not a good match. He did have some good moments as UH QB, but he would not come up in any conversation I would have about best UH QB.

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What did Tune accomplish at UH? I don’t recall him getting much national recognition even in 2021.

Our highest attended game that year was 28k against Memphis despite only having 1 loss, there just wasn’t much buzz.

I remember the buzz around Kolb, of course Case as well as Ward.

He went 10-2 and got to the CCG, won 2 bowl games and is currently in the NFL, not to mention almost single handedly won lots of games.

To me that qualifies as a good QB, maybe not Keenum, Ware or Weigman good but those guys I’d qualify as exceptional.

Also, Danny Davis, Moon Mullins, Terry Elston, Bo Burris and D.C. Nobles negate all the K/W idiocy. I don’t care how long or short anyone’s memory is.

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That 2021 team had the weakest schedule any UH team has had in decades. We could have put David Piland, Kyle Postma, Kyle Allen, Cotton Turner, etc back there and had the same results

Tune just got cut from the UFL, you might wanna keep up pro news better.

Was Tune a good game manager? He was in his junior and senior years. Was he a game changing QB? No.

Only a handful of people are even still alive when those other guys you mentioned played so I don’t really have an opinion on that.

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Okay

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I’m not sure Case said an expletive there.

Would it be too judgmental to opine that JD must really like seeing Case throwing up that \ii/ sign?

WTH was that, Case? 🫨 :face_with_open_eyes_and_hand_over_mouth: :face_with_diagonal_mouth:

Go Coogs! :smiley_cat:

I think that he actually did, “locker room talk”. I heard it live and think they bleeped it. Like I told my Dad once upon a time, “It’s just words”

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Thumb out is not hook’em

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Thank God!

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That’s the American sign-language sign for “I love you”.

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