Its a very short talk youtube.
Didn’t post because its a conversation about Deion. I posted this for the commentary they made about big money donors and how decisions are made to hire certain coaches for the job. The guest comments are right on target.
Feldman makes a good (albeit offhand) point about the fact that if Deion were doing what he’s doing at USF, it would be a different discussion. I think the risk associated with hiring Coach Prime gets overlooked a lot, because it’s just sort of assumed that he’s going to come in and win big immediately anywhere he goes. But looking at things from an AD’s perspective, if he comes in and flops, all of a sudden you’re the dude that bet it all on “SWAC Deion”. If Hugh Freeze goes to Auburn and fails, that hire’s pretty defensible – he did well at Liberty, and has a prior history of success in the SEC. On the other hand, if Deion is a dud, you just bet your program’s future on a dude who had a total of two real years of college coaching experience, all of it in the SWAC. Sure, he’s been setting the world on fire, but you know who else did that? Tom Herman, and look how that worked out. Anyone else old enough to remember having threads every offseason about how we should hire Bob Stitt before he got hired at Montana and got his butt kicked up and down the Big Sky conference?
I get what you’re saying. Why does everything have to be so existential? lol is their program gonna shut down after 4-5 years of Deion pooping the bed? Most coaching hires end in failure so I don’t get all the consternation. Arizona State just hired a 32 year old with 6 years of college coaching experience. No one has batted an eye. Dilfer is getting a G5 job. This all strikes me as that Sanders is not a part of the good ol’ boys system and that bias works against him.
You are correct - those AD’s don’t want to deal with a dominant personality and they’ll find any and every reason to make excuses up and hire safe folks they may can control
Mostly because making good coaching hires is at the core of an AD’s job, and if they hire one big flop, they may not get a chance to fix that mistake. If your job was on the line, you’d probably be a little more risk-averse, too!
Dillingham has been a fast riser, but he’s been relatively successful at three different P5 programs as an OC. If he’d started his coaching career at 27 instead of 17, nobody would really bat an eye at that hire. Granted, he got those opportunities mostly because he was buddies with Mike Norvell, but he made the most of them. He’s an ASU alumnus and everything except his age checks every box you’d look for in a coach, especially at a program that needs a total rebuild and probably didn’t have a lot of great options.
Dilfer is getting the UAB job, but that program has been roundly and deservedly mocked for making that hire. It’s the single most confusing coaching hire I can recall a program making, and it feels a lot like they’re trying to imitate the Deion hire because they couldn’t get the real deal.
Mistake!
Just wait another year for better jobs next year
It’ll be like Herm Edwards at Arizona St. Cool story for 5 minutes. Then you’re losing to Arizona and Washington St and getting fired in 3-4 years
Not saying Deion doesn’t deserve it. But, Colorado?
It might work for us.
Deion chooses to pass on the Colorado type jobs this year, we keep CDH and then next year we are in a better position to fire CDH and pay his buyout and can consider replacements, like Deion.
We, except for Pez, all know this is inevitable.
“There are them coaches who are fired and them coaches who will be fired.”
Bum Phillips
Unless your name is Bill Belichick or Mike Tomlin.
An AD’s job being on the line because they hired Prime is more likely because they deigned to hire outside the coaching establishment network or they were on the chopping block anyways.
And to be clear I don’t mind Dillingham or Dilfer getting their jobs. Just using those examples to show that the digs taken at Sanders for why he shouldn’t be hired at a FBS/P5 job are largely ignored or not even factors if you’re in the club.
I think Under Armor will heavily influence Coach Prime’s next move. He has personal business ties with UA. Jackson St was Nike before he got there and they switched. Look for Coach Prime to go to a UA school so if he does move it will be to either Cincy or USF which are UA schools.
The CEO was in Jackson last week
Of Under Armor or UH?
That was a great discussion. Agree that CO is a tough job to take and USF, as bad as it is, can be turned around a lot quicker in the AAC.
That being said, Cinci is an opportunity for Prime to be in a P5 and positioned in a great spot to make a big splash. As much as it would make me sick to my stomach to face him across the sideline, it will be fun seeing him compete at a high level.
Home and away games would get great attendance. It would be good for whatever conference lands him.
Under armor
Prime’s with UA?… will have to rethink this
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