What was the initial purpose of UH-Downtown?

That’s bull. Its based on feelings, as you have shown that you look at non-traditional students as they were in the 80’s and early 90’s, when that cohort has changed as much as UH has in the last 30 years.

That proves my point.

The real problem with your thinking is you want to just eliminate the non-traditional student on your belief that we will have better engagement with traditional students after graduation. The flaw here is that traditional studentss can become just as disengaged from UH as anyone else. We should focus on developing and building the engagement while students are here vs. just trying to filter who we think will be engaged. It isn’t an “if you build it, they will come” scenario that will just turn out engagement post graduation.

Again, the only thing I’m not aligned with is your outdated notion of what a non traditional student is and your continued demonization of them. Other than that, I doubt you could point to any statement I’ve made that I ever pushed back on Dr. Khator’s vision. I only push back on your interpretation of it.

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My last few years in school, I refused to buy a parking pass due to their never being parking and having to park in the mud near Pizza Hut. Racked up several tickets, but my senior year, I inherited my Grandmother’s '74 Impala. Not only did I not have a parking sticker, I would park that sucker wherever I wanted. It was so long, I would crank the wheels to the side so they would smash into other cars if they tried to tow me.

Alas, my hubris caught up to me the day my housemate rushed me to school so he could get to class. I was too groggy to remember the wheels, so my reckoning came to be.

The accumulated fines came out to be exactly what the parking sticker would have cost over those years, so I Fought The Law and It Was A Draw.

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  1. UH-D is a university not just a college.

  2. UH-D is not on or near Cullen. That’s UH central. Feel free to change that name.

When UH Downtown students and alumni start talking about changing its name that’s when it might happen. They never have been and I suspect never will.

What alumni would want the name on their degree to not match the name of any existing university?

UHD needs to keep the UH brand or else UT or A&M will try and buy it (which would be bad for UH Main Campus)

It’s chess not checkers

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I was also a student in the late eighties. I eventually learned that while a parking pass was 50ish, parking tickets were only about 15 and only half that if you paid right away.

Add in the fact that I would only rack up 1-3 tickets a semester with no pass. So flaunting the law worked out well for me

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Man there ain’t a day that goes by on this board that you can’t find a post by my man 1927 hating on the “Non-Traditional” UH student.

People just need to look at the numbers:

Percentage of college grads who give back to their colleges: 8 percent

The top 15 schools in terms of alumni giving average 30 percent. That was basically Ivies plus a few non Ivy private universities and West Point. The only public university on the list is Virginia Tech.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/the-short-list-college/articles/colleges-where-the-most-alumni-donate

Also, USNWR used to include alumni giving in its rankings, but they dropped it in 2022. That is one reason why UHs ranking jumped. IOWs, the rankings agencies don’t care about this stuff.

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Any idea what the figure is for UH? Was trying to find it but couldn’t.

Again, even though he denies it, it was always about football attendance, that was the only metric.

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The only thing I could find was some data on UC Clear Lake, which is at .12 percent, the worst in the country for a four year institution.