When you have a class average of 41 on a mid-term AFTER the curve…
Bs start to look REAL GOOD!
When you have a class average of 41 on a mid-term AFTER the curve…
Bs start to look REAL GOOD!
If anyone actually thinks that working full time is the same as what D1 athletes do every week, they are fooling themselves. I am sure any D1 athlete would tell you to mirror them for a week and they would see a massive difference.
You are way off on that belief. The demands of D1 sports are way higher than the other divisions and it is not even close.
Not sure about that.
But it’s definitely a big time commitment that most full-time students don’t have.
Lower division athletes have commitments as well, but as a guy that attended a D3 undergrad college, and having known lots of D3 varsity athletes, their time commitment is a bit less and a bit more flexible than at the D1 level. Here’s a Cleveland newspaper story on that.
Quote: Debeljak has some practices at 7 a.m., others at 7 p.m. Some others are in the late afternoon. He builds them around the academic schedules of players but still knows that there will be at least a few players missing at most practices because of laboratory and other academic requirements.
Yes, these are real student-athletes.
And yes, they also are good small-college football players.
Debeljak has transformed CWRU into a nationally ranked Division III program, as the Spartans were in the top 25 each year from 2007 to '10.
You’re certainly entitled to your opinion. My experience tells me differently. No big deal either way.
Well, at least he’s coaching good students. Unfortunately, that’s not the name of the game these days, not even in college.
Did you play Div 1 sports?
So basically to cut to the chase TW brings in kids that do well academically and they’re coached by a coach who makes D’s + F’s and instead of being let go Dean Wormer (Pez) has put him on Double secret probation (and has done so the past few yrs). Got it!
Maybe the athlete should mirror the student who works full time. The difference you would see is that if you are an athlete, they will make sure you get the academic and whatever other help you need, whether you seek it or not. If you are a working student, you are on your own. As long as you pay your tuition and fees, they don’t give an f. You can drop out or drop dead, they won’t notice either way.
First of all, the student should mimic the athlete. I promise you, just getting through the workouts with the S&C coaches will have you ready to drop out in the first week. Add on the other athletic endeavors and you will find out real quick that it is no joke. Working isn’t easy but it is nothing like what a D1 athlete, especially football, basketball, and baseball do every day. Second, the academic support at Houston is not very good. If you major in something other than sociology, there are no tudors, etc, when you get into your third year. Earlier if you have a hard major.
Which major you pick matters a ton. Most athletes aren’t picking tough ones. Kudos to the ones that do but they are the minority.
Also, there is an added stress of working your way through college that can’t be ignored. When you have to support yourself while going to school, it’s a different kind of stress that can definitely be taxing. That’s not to say athletes aren’t under any stress.
Oh yeah.
As I said, most aren’t majoring in Engineering, Architecture, or hard sciences.
But even in less demanding fields, getting a 3.25 or above is no joke, ESPECIALLY when you have the added time commitment of d1 athletics.
That’s why the fewer than 25% of athletes even achieve 3.0, and fewer still the 3.25 milestone. That distinction deserves our praise, in my mind, and that’s why no one will convince me to be unimpressed by that.
I guess it depends on the job. My S&C didn’t take place in an air conditioned weight room. It involved unloading 50’ trailers, one case at a time, into an unair-conditioned warehouse. I would have traded places with a Doug Drabek or Rayner Noble in a heartbeat. I doubt there are any former college athletes who have ever said: “If I had to do it all over again, I’d give up sports and get a job doing grunt work at a grocery store instead.”
I applaud them for getting 3.25 or better GPAs.
Kids that work full time and go to school are stressed to the max. Most aren’t just doing it for spending money. When I was at UH the athletes I was around didn’t apply themselves much in the classroom. Maybe times have changed.
Well, I got three advanced degrees while working full-time as a professional.
I was stressed, but not necessarily “to the max.”
I’m guessing you got all those advanced degrees because you enjoyed getting them at some level and likely thrive in that environment. You also probably didn’t feel the need that you had to get those degrees to change you life.
Different ballgame from most.
And btw, I have 2 advanced degrees that I got while working full time so I speak from some experience when I say that. I also did work nearly full time in undergrad.
I think they have. Whitting has bonuses in his contract based on team GPA, Academic Progress Rate, & Graduation Success Rate. Look at different UH teams Rosters/Support Staff and you’ll see several Directors & Assistant Athletics Directors for Academic Services.
Things change. Back in the day being an athlete was a gritty lifestyle. Long days of practice and most kids didn’t understand the demands of college. If you were at UT (Billion Dollar Tutoring Club) then you had it made. Elsewhere it was hit or miss.
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