Dont get not doing a non-conference tournament. Makes filling out a schedule even more difficult.
i think it made sense 2 years ago, when most of the big tournaments were planned
@oregon, bama, @virignia… all look not that threating today… but 1.5 years ago that looked like a monster power schedule, with 3 final 4 caliber teams …sampson regularly preaches on schedule “balance” and probably didnt want to overload the schedule … no one would have predicted that theyd all be on massive rebuilds, and all the big tournaments likely already booked by then
for the rest of the schedules im hoping for atleast 2 games from for sure tournament teams (where 1 is top 10-ish)
if we go into the season with this schedule as is, ALL season every topic about us is going to be about our strength of schedule… overall weak top to bottom and then no legit top teams… really dont want to hear “who did they play” all year long
It doesn’t matter. We will be in the tournament and get our chance. Seeding doesn’t really matter if we think we are good enough to win it all. Whatever the perceptions have been about our schedule, we’ve been to a FF and EE the last two years. Did our schedules hurt us?
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Rothstein has Oregon at 18, Virginia at 23, and Alabama at 34. It’s not like they’re scrubs or something. Lol
Goodman has Oregon at 15, Virginia at 16, and Alabama at 18.
CBS has Oregon at 19 and Alabama at 21.
ESPN has Alabama at 17 and Virginia at 21.
Is ESPN really going to ask who we played if we go 3-0 against those 3? Especially when 2 of them are on the road. And that’s before we add any other big-time games. Which we will.
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no, the best team in college basketball the last decade didnt win the tournament, the Kentucky team with 9 mcdonalds all American that ended up edit: 38-1 losing in the final 4…upsets are thing in the sport, no matter how good you are, and playing the odds, the likelihood of an upset decreases the worse the team… seeding definitely matters, it matters a ton. just look at the stats on who has advanced and who has won the tournaments.
the FF year was the covid year where schedules mattered less,… and the elite 8 team we got a 5seed despite having a 1seed level kenpom…we had to play a 4seed and a 1seed just to make the elite 8, banking on constantly beating 1seeds just to make elite8s how you don’t advance. vill could have easily been a 4seed meaning and met us in the rd of 32 …
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we literally played all 3 last year and they asked “who did we play” all season… all 3 were preseason ranked higher last year than this year…
That great Kentucky team lost to Wisconsin in the Final Four, i believe
yeah 38-1 and final 4… but the team considered the best team the last decade, didnt win it all… its not a 7 game series where the better team always wins… so its better to play the odds and play worse teams who have lower upset potential
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Most Big 12 schools will never have as many commuter students as we do! I do think having more kids living on campus has really helped! I think student participation is much better than when I attended school at UofH 1973-1978! My senoir year there were lots of reasons for students to turn out! because we had the highest ranking in football in school history! My daughter who is currently a jr.said everyone keeps saying that 84% of students are commuters!
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For the picture of the gray seats, if you look at the concourse where the bar is, it is pretty full. People in the gray seats like to socialize around the concourse.
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Number is actually about 75% when it comes to anything non campus-affiliated. Meaning that while 13000 students live on campus or in apartments attached to it, you still have students in the Med Center, Montrose, Greater 3rd Ward, and Heights for example, also living in the area. They count as a commuter, but are still very close to campus, just as if they were at one of the other state schools
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Okay?
So. You think they’re all out of the top 40? Top 50? Top 60?
Everyone else is wrong?
Im more confident in Oregon and Virginia, being tourney teams next season. Than i am of Alabama being better next year. Still have questions about their program
Bennett and Altman havent had 2 straight seasons of poor basketball in years
no but none of them are guarantted to be good… oregon just lost a 5star recruit like 30minutes ago…the case for Virginia being good is all the starters return, not for any notable changes…and bama has a worse roster than last year, which came into the season as preseason top 13 last year…
preseason rankings are just that preseason rankings, if it mattered bama (preseason top 13 last year) oregon (preseason top13 last year), virginia (preseason top 25 last year) would have been credited to us… again we played all those 3 teams last year and we non stop got “who did we play”
not a single one of the those teams are stable enough to rely on them to carry us through a weak conference slate and a mostly weak noncon…all 3 could be good, but also easily NIT teams… honestly if we crush them it more likely “they arent as good” than “houston is dominant”… 2 more games with ncaa tournament teams, and have 1 be a solid top 10-ish team (that you cant deny the quality of win) would be great
Okay. So, again. You feel pretty confident they’ll all finish outside of the top 40? Top 50? Top 60?
And every poll has as a top 5 team. People know we’ll be good. That argument is just silly.
Virginia lost to a top 5 team. They must not be very good.
Bama was a tourney team last year. We finish them off at home, then we hear less of the “who did we beat” talk.
how is my point going over head… they might be good, they might not be, they are teams with highly volatile stocks…
this silly question you are asking, if i asked you JUST last year about this question about this same crop of teams, youd be saying our SOS is fine… and we saw how that ended up…my point “i dont want us to be treated like last year” you are countering with points that could be used to argue last years sos was strong…it makes zero sense
and we were top 4 in kenpom last year, people knew we were good… that didnt stop them from non stop questioning our schedule… you were one of the most vocal posters about people questioning our lack of q1 games… everyone debated for a top 5 seed is good, we are talking about how do we seed among those guys… in the preseason they judge on roster strength… and we look like a top 5 preseason roster; when the really seeding debates starts, they do not care about how strong your roster is (not even a little bit) and exclusively go into resume debates, lets not go in lacking …
“lets not back our entire SOS strength on teams that went to the NIT last year” seems like a very reasonable and not silly argument …
We went to the Elite Eight without Tramon and Marcus. Let the committee put us as a 5 seed again.
Also. Oregon and Virginia would have to bomb for those not to be Q1 games. So, we already got our Q1 tally in shape. Just by winning.
When I was a student at LSU, our ID was our ticket and nobody was turned away. Tiger stadium held 65K at the time and the student section went from the 50 yard line all the way around the north end zone to the goal line on the visitor side. As for basketball, it was post Bob Pettit and pre Pistol Pete; 300 was a good crowd inthe old gym armory.
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Oregon and Virginia both being road games.
Quadrant 1 is: Home 1-30, Neutral 1-50, Away 1-75
Even if Virginia and Oregon aren’t great. They’ll be top 75 in NET most likely. So both Q1
Alabama at Home. Depends on how good Alabama is. Need to be Top 30 to be Q1 win
Last year Bama finished 32 in NET.
Virginia was 68th in NET
Oregon was 76th in NET
I still think we’re adding 2 more good opponents to the schedule
Cause last year on paper we had 5: Virginia, Wisconsin, Oregon, Alabama and Oklahoma St
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Exactly. So, even if they totally blow. Like Pesik says they will. They’re still Q1 opportunities.
Or would the committee further segregate Q1 data to go against us?
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