Under cover of war, extremists are seizing Palestinian land – they hope permanently Under cover of war, extremists are seizing Palestinian land – they hope permanently
Multiple instances of land that have been posted in this thread. I posted one where there’s video of it happening live. Google it. It’s been going on for decades. Palestinian Israelis were not even allowed to buy land for many years. They have basically always been discriminated against by Israel and Israelis.
So you are referring to Judea and Samaria. Is it possible to steal your own land? There are tons of archaeological evidence that Jews have been there for thousands of years. The most famous Jew in history, Jesus, was birn in Judea.
The Arabs attacked Israel from that land. Israel won back that land in battle. Land all over the world has been conquered, but when Israel does it, it’s bad. How many Muslim countries has Jews been evicted from? I’ll give you a hint…all of them.
So, you’re cool with any historical entity stealing its land back. Got it.
Also, that’s absurd.
No, but we are perfectly OK with those to whom it rightfully belongs and from whom it was stolen by force having it restored to them.
Ukraine is entitled get the land that Russia stole back and restored to them.
Jews are likewise entitled to get the land that was stolen from their ancestors by Arabs back and restored to them.
That’s Israel.
FAIR IS FAIR!!!
And of course, the people from whom it was stolen (Jews), and to whom it was restored (Jews), have every right to fight back when the thieves come back try to steal it from them by force again, or alternately, try to attack and terrorize them for claiming what is rightfully theirs.
Any questions?
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When are you giving your land back to the local natives?
No one has asked me for it.
I might ask you the same question.
I’m not because this historical argument your making is absolutely ridiculous and it basically ensures, if everyone adheres to it, never ending war.
Not really.
The Palestinians could simply stand down and a) stop attacking people to try and get that which they will never get, b) learn to accept that which they cannot change and will not change, c) learn to come into the modern world and not be ruled by violent religious extremists, and d) decide to live at peace with their neighbors.
The sooner that happens, the better off the whole world will be.
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The history claim argument is one of the weakest ones across the board. If someone is living in a spot currently, and you come in to kick them out especially by force you are stealing it. Its is pretty simple
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Maybe but also maybe the settlers shouldn’t roll up on people’s houses and say, “it’s ours now, because millenia ago we were here first.” I mean if someone did that to my house, I’m pretty sure I’d feel pretty good to tell them to go fck themselves and escalate from there.
Yeah but they will be ruled by Israeli religious extremists. The settlers are not the vibrant liberal democracy Israelis of say a Tel Aviv. Those folks are ever bit a religious zealot as an extremist Muslim, opus dei, Catholic, snake handling fundamentalist.
And as such I don’t respect them or the people they elect as leaders.
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Israel “stealing land” is a lie. That is what Jordan did to Judea and Samaria.
Settlers are currently stealing land
Get back to me when you decide Israel should stand down too.
Israel is only standing up because, as we saw on 10/7, the other side wouldn’t stand down.
Should Hamas unconditionally surrender, then we can all talk about standing down.
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This is just a circle now but here we go. You asked for it. This didn’t start on October 7th. That of course doesn’t justify anything that Hamas did that day or any killing.
Nor do any of the points your posts actually justify murdering raping and stealing by Isreal and Israelis. I don’t know why you keep making those flawed justifications for horrible acts.
Nothing will end until both sides stop. That isn’t going to happen if one’s idea is they own land they haven’t occupied in centuries and can kill and steal to get it back from the current owner.
Here’s the absolute, undeniable truth. If Hamas, Hezbolah, PLO, etc. lay down their arms, there will be peace.
If Israel laid down their arms, there will be no more Israel.
Settlers prove a different reality https://youtube.com/shorts/EMUJhvwshtE?si=lXvLcWA2HoxtkFO9
That is just not true. And why is it always just one side?