If I’m worrying about the future of UH football, I have bigger psychological problems than I thought.
I think UH is in the best position it can be at the moment. Not worried in the least.
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I also think we’re in the best position we’ve been in for quite some time. If college football gets to the point where we only have two huge conferences and everyone else is irrelevant, I won’t care about college football any longer no matter where UH lands. It’s already hard to get as much enthusiasm about the game; I’m at the point where I really only care about Cougar games (and the other Big 12 teams, to a lesser extent). The “rich getting richer” trend is not attractive to me.
And I don’t EVER want to be in a conference with Texas or A&M again, after they’ve spend six decades trying to screw us over.
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Very concerned we haven’t won the galactic championship yet. We were told this was the goal.
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We were so close but for that R2D2 awful call. Who does it think it is? Clearly C3PO should have never been overruled.
He thinks so too.
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We’re getting more big 12 money which helps.
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I believe Pez has said we intend to use a big chunk of the increased income we will be receiving to lay down our debt and become more self sufficient as an athletic department but that will take time and the department will need to increase ticket sales in all sports as well as increase sponsorship and invigorate our donor base so we can pay done the debt while still trying to grow, maintain and expand the athletic department.
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Perhaps, the “losses” by supporting sports is not viewed correctly. General Motors spent $3.25 billion on advertising in 2022. It is just the cost-of-doing-business to GM.
“OU has made recruiting out-of-state students a top priority — and Texas is a place where potential targets are plentiful.”
OU has a half dozen admissions counselors based in the state. “I honestly think that I see more Texas license plates in Norman than Oklahoma license plates, he said. It’s kind of crazy."
Almost 13,000 Texas residents were enrolled in Oklahoma colleges last year and 7,100 enrolled at the University of Arkansas alone. They pay out-of-state tuition rather than enrolling at a Texas University.
OU is not an elite university. It is ranked #124 by USNews. Arkansas is #178. UH is #133 and headed to the top 100.
Why do Texas students pay out-of-state tuition rather than enroll at a Texas University?
Prob just bc A&M and UT fill up then kids look for close brand schools based on athletics so athletic brand whether it’s already there are being built draws students. UH had 38000 applications when the big 12 was announced.
They look at UT and A&M then some look at Tech and us. Many look out of state for a close brand in athletics if they can’t get into A&M and UT.
So athletics even subsidized is well worth it. We’d at least spent millions trying to market UH and it would fail bc we’re not Tulane or Harvard relying on academics.
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Many of these Texas kids don’t pay out-of-state tuition.
Many Plains and Southern schools have a lot of incentives for out-of-state students that basically offset any additional out-of-state tuition.
My son went through this two years ago. Iowa State was cheaper for us than any Texas school. Nebraska was a thousand or so more than Texas schools, but obviously competitive.
I think rankings drive this, or better said, the need to rise or remain high in the rankings. They’d rather take a top 10/20 percent kid from Texas than a middle of the pack kid from Iowa or Nebraska. JMHO.
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Yeah, I know OU in particular gives basically a full ride to National Merit Scholars, and as I recall, OU, OkSt, and LSU all offer in-state tuition rates to Texas freshmen.
If I were a resident of those states I’d be mad that people who don’t pay taxes in my state are getting the same rate as I do. On the flip side, those smart kids from Texas will elevate my degree.
As a Texan, more power to Oklahoma and Ohio educating our citizens on the dime of residents of Ohio and Oklahoma.
It’s also a fairly smart bet that a good few of those students you pluck from other states will wind up staying there, and contributing far more to your tax base than they’ll be saving on out of state tuition.
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They don’t care. For many of those college towns, the University is the #1 employee, they need customers and Texas provides that and they get to keep their jobs.
Stillwater and Normon need Texans attending their Universities.
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What about someone in Muskogee or Tulsa or Cleveland or Cincinnati paying their taxes to subsidize an out of state student?
Someone in Muskogee or Tulsa benefits because when an 18 year old from Dallas or San Antonio agrees to live in Norman or Stillwater for 4 years, there’s a very solid chance that they wind up living in OKC or Tulsa for the next 40, and paying their state taxes accordingly. They probably get a job that pays relatively well, and are more likely to start a business or otherwise provide jobs and tax dollars statewide.
Who here thinks it would benefit the University of Houston to accept out of state traditional students and charge them In-State tuition fees?
I would guess those out of state traditional students (live on campus, involved in greek life/other clubs, attend sporting events/other functions, etc.) have a higher ROI both as students and alums than the overwhelming majority of non traditional in state students where a large number of them having nothing to do with the University the day after they graduate.
Arkansas also offers in-state tuition to Texans.
My neighbor’s daughter got in state tuition at Arkansas. Ton of kids my daughter graduated with went to Arkansas and OU.
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