How would Biden accomplish this if Putin invades…He could wind up looking worst than he already does…
I don’t know how he’d do it without Germany on board.
If we insist on the Ukraine being part of Nato and suggest we have the right to arm them with strategic nuclear weapons don’t be surprised if Russia doesn’t then attempt to weoponize Cuba.
Kind of how you argued with Chris, about Nord Stream. Germany kind of has ultimate say, unless we have a spot where we could blow it. Though I’m guessing that wouldn’t go over well.
I just hope he means it and follows thru…
He said emphatically said, we can do it. Otherwords no question we have the capability of shutting it down. It’s a threat with a guarantee it will happen if he invades
I just hope his red lines don’t look anything like Obamas 
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Germany is fully cooperating with the US. I don’t care who is president as long as Russia and China doesn’t bully us around.
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That would be a huge change if true. Until now, they haven’t been cooperating. If it is true, then it’s a foreign policy win for the USA and Biden, but I need to see a reliable source before I’ll believe that.
Yes, this is my point in all of this. If we put weapons that close to them we have no right to deny them in our our hemisphere. We just need to back down on the nato issue and only support them as a sovereign country then we move on.
What you are missing is Russia and China are the aggressors…and we have to defend what is vital to us
Again, doing so would be a violation of basic American principles.
And again, Russia does NOT have the naval power (currently anyway, God only knows what the future might hold) to support arming Cuba.
Oh sure.
Refusing to rule it out doesn’t mean that they have the naval capability to support it.
That doesn’t mean Jack.
If they did deploy over here in our hemisphere afterwards, what international backing or credibility do we have of stopping them if we have missiles in their backyard? During the Cuba missile crisis, we had international backing and the right to refuse since we weren’t doing the same to them at that time.
Actually, we WERE doing the same to them at that time. We agreed to remove some missiles of our own from Turkey in exchange for their removal of missiles from Cuba.
But I doubt we’d put missiles in the Ukraine.
We’d sell 'em some stuff, probably, and provide training, were Ukraine in NATO, but in the end, we wouldn’t place any nukes there.
Russia just doesn’t like the idea that, if Ukraine were a part of NATO, they’d never have the option of retaking it, because, at that point, they’d be forced to fight the entire Western World if they tried to.
Russia still thinks of countries like Georgia and Ukraine as their own, and they want to be assured that NATO will never stand in their way in the event that they ever decide to try and retake them.
Anyway, until Russia gets a better Navy than their current one, don’t imagine that they’ll be deploying anything to this hemisphere anytime soon.
I watched a show last night about the Russian submarines off our coast during the 1962 Cuban missile crises. Unknown to us they were equipped with NUCLEAR torpedoes. We were harassing the submarines as part of efforts to enforce our embargo. Only through the grace of God we avoided a nuclear confrontation. Very scary to watch.
True about turkey but it proves a point about not having missiles close to the other one’s border. I just think the risk of forcing the nato issue isn’t
worth it bc it will escalate where Russia sides more with China and they do things to irritate the west. We really don’t need to do this , just back them as a sovereign nation then we have international backing and credibility when blocking China or Russia elsewhere.
Every country has a right to choose its allies.
If we take the position that we don’t support that fundamental right which Ukraine, like every other country, has, then it sets a precedent for allowing any international bully to dictate any other nation’s foreign policy to them and violate their sovereignty, WITH OUR BLESSING.
That’s NOT a precedent that we want to set.
That’s BAD.
Not happening. And because it’s not happening, we won’t allow Russia to simply have its way on that.
A land war is different than an air and sea war.
Defending Ukraine is different than defending Cuba. One is a easier than the other. Cuba is an island which makes it a easier to defend. Missiles in Cuba would be for aggression, in Ukraine, for defense.
Ukraine ain’t invading Russia and Cuba ain’t invading the United States.