Do you really believe this is what happened ?
You may want to try multi sourcing things you think
are facts.
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Bliss?
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If you’ve never heard of the swamp then you most likely have had your head buried in the sand out of hatred for your commander in chief…sound about right
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Seriously, why so confrontational? “Your friends” sounds like you’re trying very hard to pick a fight and be divisive. Try to find common ground and relax every once in a while, dude.
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You can’t handle the truth if it does not fit your narrative.
Your very own pelosi ridiculed Trump in her own San Francisco in Chinatown calling Trump an anti Chinese despot.
While at the same time pelosi’s husband was/is profiting with dealing with pro ccp chinese companies. Look it up. It came out the last few days. Why do you think pelosi told our athletes to not criticize the ccp?
Great book:
JohnnyCougar, I mentioned it previously look up a few posts above and you will have your answer. Care to chime in uhlaw97?
Some lay down and take it. I do not. Respect goes both ways. I am with you and I get the message. Let’s see if another party does too? Fair? and I mean it by the way.
I have no idea what you’re talking about. I asked why so confrontational. I still don’t know why so confrontational but I don’t really care very much either. Just wondering.
I’d like to know how you figure Pelosi and Schumer are my friends.
Anyone who knows me knows that that ain’t so.
My ideology is NOTHING like theirs. FAR from it. In fact, other than their hatred for Trump, I wouldn’t share much in common with them. Is it your contention that anyone that doesn’t like Trump is a liberal or a Democrat ? That’s BS. As I’ve said, Trump ain’t a true conservative.
True conservatives are in favor of less regulation and lower taxes. Trump was in favor of greater regulation (of trade) and higher taxes (tariffs).
I’m like Ben Sasse. A super-educated anti-Trump conservative independent.
Let me tell you why Trump won in 2016. It’s mostly because he has a crude populist appeal to working class and rural whites.
For more information, read the Harvard Business Review.
Of course, once people saw what he was all about, he quickly lost the votes of educated professionals in the suburbs, many of whom had voted for him in 2016.
You keep at it.
President Trump just like President Reagan are for less taxes and less government spending.
Easy to know. Why?
Arthur Laffer that is.
You can’t keep making accusations on Mr. Trump without knowing facts uhlaw97. Have you heard of making the recent Trump tax cuts permanent? He had every right to increase tariffs on the ccp driven companies. Your ben sasse exemplifies the swamp. He is a professional politician that never worked in the private sector. He personally called Mr. Trump a racist knowing full well that President Trump’s daughter is married to an Hasidic Jew. By the way President Trump is the first rep President to make his campaign promise true. American Embassy where it belongs in Israel.
“super educated anti trump conservative independent” Woah…Oh boy. That is a long description. I have multiple degrees and speak three languages. Who cares? Granted that can be an interesting and colorful discussion.
You write the following:
“Let me tell you why Trump won in 2016. It’s mostly because he has a crude populist appeal to working class and rural whites”
How are some of you going to interpret this?
Now let’s look at facts:
1% less white male vote is substantial but what about your assertion?
How could he get significant plus on all other demographics including yes including women?
Now this is where statistics become important for the so called fair election.
How many times did a republican incumbent substantially increase his black votes percentage and lost?
The black votes for biden is concentrated in areas with drop in boxes sponsored by none other than jeffthematafacebook. How do the two add up? Furthermore Mr. Trump increased his white women vote percentage. Again how could that be?
US election 2020: Why Trump gained support among minorities - BBC News
China and Russia think they have the west by the nether regions because of the oil and gas Russia provides the world and the manufacturing that China provides the world. With inflation the highest it has been in 40 years and the supply chain being as screwed up as it is, it is a legitimate threat. Normal Americans are struggling in the grocery store, they can’t afford $5 gas. Small and medium sized businesses have untold amounts of money tied up in machines and inventory that they paid for 6 months ago and haven’t had delivered yet.
This should be the wake up call to America to bring back manufacturing to the United States and a wake up call to Europe on energy.
This could very easily spiral out of control.
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Chris,
I have no problem with truth. It’s what you call truth that is questionable. Look there is
evidence of politicians in this country who have had spouses, children, siblings , etc, engaged in stock trades, business dealings - both foreign and domestic, and other revenue generating activities. Your problem is you need to show that a law was broken. Occasionally we hear
about “insider trading” that does violate existing rules and laws around stock trades and there will be indictments and prosecutions. But generally those cases result in fines or penalties and not
time served. As for “bad optics” dealings of relatives , that happens too, but you must show what laws these individuals are breaking. That’s hard in a free society. We can pass laws that prohibit
office holders from engaging in these bad optic looking business dealings , but how far do you
extend those laws to relatives in a free society ?
I think that’s true but would add what a fellow poster noted, that in 2016 there were quite a few voters that went 3rd party that we didn’t see in 2020. Those votes could have flipped the 2020 election easily. But of course I haven’t seen an analysis that shows if that group of 2016 voters
would have split 50:50 , 80:20, 20:80 etc… My hunch is they made a significant impact.
Except that Trump was/is indeed in favor of higher taxes (tariffs), and greater trade regulations. You’re not denying that, are you? If so, then you are denying factual reality.
The REALITY is that Reagan, a TRUE conservative wasn’t. Quite the opposite, actually. It was Reagan that first proposed NAFTA, and Trump that militantly opposed it.
That, in and of itself, should tell you the difference between a true conservative like Reagan and a Pat Buchanan populist like Trump.
Trump’s xenophobic, protectionist rhetoric appealed to blue collar workers who believed his lie that he would bring manufacturing jobs back to the USA (didn’t happen). That’s what enabled him to win so many Rust Belt states. At the same time, many professional class suburbanites who typically voted Republican did so again, simply because Trump was the Republican nominee, and they didn’t want Hillary. That’s why Trump won in 2016.
But by 2020, once people realized who Trump was, the suburbanites abandoned him en masse, as did many blue collar whites. That cost Trump the suburbs and the Rust Belt, and that’s why he lost.
Trump is still VERY popular in places like rural Texas where I work. Hell, the week after Jan 6, MORE Pro-Trump signs popped up in Sealy, Bellville, and Brenham (that’s my drive to work daily).
If you’re ever back in TX, you might want to visit the “Trump Burger” restaurant in Bellville.
https://www.trumpburgerusa.com/
You’d feel right at home!
It’s odd that a New York City slicker fat cat rich dude like Trump would have so much rural appeal, given that he’s absolutely nothing like most rural Americans, but whatever!
Guess what though? It ain’t enough to help you win a Presidential election. Trump lackeys can lie all they want about how the election was stolen, never mind that more than 60 courts, numerous audits and recounts, and even Trump’s own Department of Homeland Security held otherwise. The only real election fraud that’s been documented was Trump’s own attempt to call Georgia and pressure them to baselessly and dishonestly change votes to him.
But really……does someone who calls the Charlottesville white supremecist protestors “good people,” and called COVID a “hoax” really deserve to be the leader of the free world?
Come on now.
A lot of indies did indeed vote Libertarian in 2016.
Most switched to Biden in 2020, I’m guessing.
You double down, triple down on the same theme. Casually dismissing what President Trump believes in. You are again casually manipulating his views. President Trump is for free trade ON AN EVEN LEVEL That was the whole premise of the free trade that President Reagan envisioned. Casually taking this crucial point out of your point dismisses your point entirely. The Washragpost would give you four .
You double down again on portraying Mr. Trump as a racist when you mention the Charlottesville speech. You copy the same narrative that the ice cream man used to vilify President Trump. The same vilifying tactics was used by the entire mainstream media and even by the so called moderator on the first presidential debate.
Your narrative about this mass exodus is false again. This deserves.
Do you want me to post for the 100th time the actual Trump Charlottesville speech? Well do you?
You don’t have to play it.
We’ve all heard it.
The Charlottesville protest was organized by these two morons:
Both well known white supremacists and neo-Nazis. One of them made THIS statement:
The marchers were chanting THIS Nazi slogan.
German: “Blut und Boden”
And also “Jews will not replace us.”
In other words…there were NO “good people” on that side, yet Trump said that there were good people on both sides.
NONSENSE!!!
There is NO context in which that which Trump said can possibly be construed as anything other than nonsensical, outrageous, and STUPID. There is simply NO defending him there.
If Trump can’t get that much right…do you really want such a man leading the free world?
If Trump calls COVID “a hoax” when it has killed over 900,000 Americans…do we really want him leading the free world?
Hint: NO.
I suppose now you’re going to tell me there is some sort of context in which calling COVID a “hoax” isn’t a preposterous, public office disqualifying statement, eh?
Sure. Whatever!!!
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Are you doing this on purpose?
You 100% know that you are not posting the truth. You purposely post misinformation on the Charlottesville speech. You use the same cnn, msdnc tactics to vilify a dully elected President.
I tell you what. Go ahead and post the entire speech. I am asking for the entire speech.
We won’t see it but wish Sen. Kennedy of La. would run for president. He is the master of the colorful metaphor.
I’m absolutely posting the truth.
Show me where anything I posted is untrue.
The protest was indeed organized by those two white supremacist/neo-Nazis.
The people involved were their followers, and they did indeed chant exactly what I said.
In other words…NONE of them were “good” people. They were all PER SE…BAD people.
Everyone on that side of the protest…was BAD!!!
Yet Trump ignorant/idiotically/outrageously said that there were good people on both sides.
Sorry, there’s no defending that.
You make yourself look bad for trying.
You see you have to call me bad. You have to resort to that instead of posting the truth. Here it is…AGAIN
So are you going to keep ignoring the facts? President Trump answered a reporter’s question. The is exactly what he said.