Not to beat a dead horse, but it appears that SDSU, while it plans to retain the name “Aztecs,” is giving up its “Moctezuma” character, much like Illinois gave up “Chief Illiniwek.”
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OK, so I just read a couple of articles. The B1G commish apparently didn’t name ANY specific schools, or at least, none are quoted in any of the articles that I read.
McMurphy, a source I like a lot, mentioned: Oregon, Washington, Stanford, Cal, Miami & Florida State.
But again, I don’t see much value added with those West Coast schools. I’d say that there are Non-West Coast schools that would add just as much value, while also creating far fewer logistical/travel challenges.
Fun new rumor mongering from the MHver of the Midwest. It’s all in relation to Warrens remarks yesterday about staying aggressive. To save some folks the trouble of clicking basically it’s saying over the next 5 years as the B1G and SEC look to swallow the remaining top brands in the PAC and ACC the Big 12 and Yormark will be doing the tier 2 dirty work and consolidating the next level down brands. Think the 4 corners and the NC State, VT, etc crowd.
As always it’s for entertainment purposes only. Any whining and belly aching about it being nothing but rumors, innuendo, gaming out scenarios, making stuff up, etc. Will be, at best, flatly ignored. The ones who fall into this category need to remove the stick from their backsides and lighten up.
https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/1552265355225169920?s=20&t=i64WVXL_veE9cHnwFYe48Q
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That level of cooperation between conferences requires an fantastical imagination IMO
Stability is in the Big 12 only because there is no one that the Big 10 or SEC wants AND the schools are committed to playing at the highest levels.
Like what happened to us after the SWC fell apart, there will be schools that are relegated to the AAC and MWC.
Syracuse, Boston College, Wake Forrest, Washington State, Oregon State are going down.
I see the four corner schools plus Louisville, NC State, Pitt, Virginia Tech rounding out a 20 team Big 12. GREAT basketball and very good football.
FOR ONCE TIMING IS ON OUR SIDE.
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It may not be a matter of cooperation. Simply a matter of reality.
What Flugaur said isn’t really that brilliant. He’s simply the Master of Stating the Obvious. Of course the SEC and B1G want to gobble up all of the biggest brands between them, with or without “cooperation.”
Fortunately for the Big 12, none of its brands are big enough to make them desirable to the B1G or SEC, thus creating stability.
Perhaps the Big 12 can…somewhere down the road, pick up the best of whatever is leftover.
We’ll see how long the PAC-12 stays together. I can’t imagine that any other PAC school will be keen on letting UO and UW take an unequal share, simply for the sake of maintaining the conference.
Something has to give.
For his plan to work (to crack the GOR) everybody has to cooperate, including us. Or else it doesn’t work.
I think it mostly comes down to the late night window. If they are serious about that they’ll need a couple more teams to have it on a weekly basis. (Just as we need more than BYU)
The Big 10 did not take USC and UCLA in order to have them on an island 1250 miles west of the nearest Big 10 school.
Here’s another one. The Big 10 and SEC won’t stop until they hit 22 to 24 schools. This leaves room for one challenger league of 20-24 teams or two smaller challenger leagues.
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Why not?
If that’s what they need in order to increase their value, and adding more teams from that region wouldn’t do so, then why not leave them on an island?
Putting more teams out there might simply cost them their “value added,” right?
Literally, on the money. Some get caught up in the fact all road games for USC and UCLA will be long flights. The bigger point is every B1G team that has the California schools on their schedules will have to make long flights. Why add to that misery, especially when the value isn’t there for other WC programs?
I’m starting to wonder if the Big and the B12 are not in this together. With Warren and Yormack having developed a friendly relationship it stands to reason that if the BIG is targeting Stanford, Cal, Oregon, and Washington that Yormack might have been given this privileged information, thus his reaching out to the four corners schools to give them a landing place.
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It’s not hard to imagine a scenario where they are able to work out a scenario where everyone in the three conferences wins monetarily. That would make the cooperation quite a bit easier.
So an alliance?
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So if the Big 10 takes those 4 schools in addition to the two LA area schools then you are really talking about a 6 school western division of the Big 10.
That really changes nothing in college football. You are back at square one. They will move some teams around, and the division winners meet at the Rose Ball.
How does this change college football.
As Grandma Soprano said in her best line “It is all a big nothing”
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Interesting.
Here’s the thing. The B1G has hinted that those other PAC schools don’t really add much value. That’s probably why they didn’t invite UO and UW straight away.
Would adding all four do much more? I dunno.
But if those four all left…then it’s a no brainer that we’d get at least the four corners schools…they’d have no place else to go!
We would then get the best remaining basketball team in the PAC (AZ), and one of the most consistently good (recent years that is) football programs in the PAC (Utah).
We’ll see though.
It changes College Football in one way.
The longstanding Rose Bowl matchup of B1G champ v. PAC champ will be no more.
Perhaps now it can be the B1G champ vs. the Big 12 champ.
Although I don’t think that adding those four is LIKELY (given that there’s likely to be little if any value added)…unlike some theories out there, it’s at least PLAUSIBLE, insofar as all four are AAU.
I scoff at theories about the B1G adding non-AAU teams other than ND.
I honestly don’t see how and why four corners still want any part of P12 after all this. That would be suicide for them short and long term. Reading on social media, it seems like UA and CU alums/fans fully understand the P12 situations and want to join B12. I think we just have to wait until August 1st to get things rolling.
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