Big 12 / SEC / B10 Expansion Thread (Part 2)

They won’t join the MWC. They won’t stoop that low simply because of academics.

Stanford and Cal are kinda screwed right now as is Oregon State and Washington State, but in a different way.

Stanford and Cal have options, but they’re going to have to sacrifice. They can swallow their pride and join the Big 12 which would be much easier in terms of geographical logistics, or they can join the more “premier” conference, the ACC, but accept the fact that they have to fly across the country every week in all sports.

Or they can just drop sports all together (which they won’t do)

Stanford is in a tough situation right now. They aren’t joining a P4 conference to win championships. They’re joining to try and uphold some element of prestige in relation to other schools within that said conference

I don’t believe that P2 mega conferences can be a reality.

The B1G & SEC have dead weight in their football team lineups to go to a maximum of 48 teams.

Dead weight I define as football programs that haven’t put the effort in to improve football program in last 10 years through facilities, stadiums, coaches, etc. They have muddled through each year to get by.

B1G has:
Indiana, Illinois, Northwestern, Rutgers.

SEC has:
Missouri, Vanderbilt

• Minnesota has been trying to always field a tough team. Nobody takes them for granted.
• Nebraska sells out every game and have hired good coaches. It hasn’t worked out but I believe they will come back.

Vanderbilt is the same as Stanford. The admission standards make it to difficult to field 80 players who could make a difference. This isn’t an AAU issue. Admission requirements of a university aren’t AAU requirements.

We just need to keep plugging away at our football program the same as we did for our basketball program.

You mean pull a TCU?

Louisville and Rutgers were forced to stay in the AAC before they could join their new conferences (B1G & ACC)

Thats what im saying, all this talk on this board about rice and smu join pac, haha they might be coming to them. Either that or this is all a ruse to get them into the big 10 forever trapping usc and ucla with their ghost

They aren’t going to 24 teams. That’s way too many teams and would cause serious issues for scheduling alone.

I would assume that the “PAC-4” is dead as a concept because Stanford and Cal want nothing to do with Oregon State and Washingston State.

Could all of them go independent then? Or does wsu and osu join an aac

they’d break up into (2) 12 school divisions.

They’d eliminate OOC games. Instead you’d play 4 against the other 12 team division within your conference, on a rotating basis. This would help with the regional issue. (i.e The B1G would be divided into an East and West division)

Remember: the networks want Premiere matchups.

Nobody turns into a Alabama vs. North East West Arkansas game

The only team that can be independent in the current landscape is Notre Dame, but if the ACC implodes then Notre Dame will have to join a conference by force because the B1G’s schedule will be way too loaded.

Out of all the PAC-4, the general consensus is that Stanford “could” go independent. The problem again lays on the fact that they would struggle to schedule any games worth paying for by a network, and if Stanford cares about the program, they will have to become road warriors in order to schedule decent matchups.

They’re better off going to the MWC logistically than going independent because none of the P3 have any schedule room to schedule a home and home with Stanford.

And who from the P3 really wants to go to Stanford let alone watch the game? It’s a waste of time and money.

Eliminating OOC will never happen because the networks want to keep profitable OOC rivalry games.

The BIG 10 said theyd be going to 10 conference games

I gotta tell ya.

Stanford is the second nicest campus I’ve ever been on behind only ND.

I liked their campus more than Harvard’s.

It’d be a cool road trip!

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How far is stanford from san fran? Downtown

It’s in Palo Alto.

Oh hell, 34 miles.

The American has a better media contract than the MWC, so I can see why ORST and Wazzu might have some interest in that conference.

The problem is money.

Does Stanford want to identify as a cupcake, or will they try and be a legitimate independent?

Regardless, Stanford’s schedule as an independent would be 80% away games and 20% home games with marquee matchups being the away games if they intend to prioritize their football program.

If they don’t intend to prioritize the program, then they’ll simply fill OOC schedules as cupcake games for their opponents

If you ask me, Stanford’s ego is way too big to just go 4-8 every year as an independent. That’s embarrassing as an elite institution.

If thats their mentality join the American and winout. Cop that 5th automatic bid

I don’t think think the AAC would take Oregon St and Washington St without Stanford or Cal or both, honestly.

Might as well join the Big 12 with that logic though, right?

More money, better opponents, easier travel