I was thinking about this this morning on my commute to work, and even more after I checked the prices to BYU’s game this weekend.
I think to be rivals people have to want to come out regardless of whether the teams are good or not. BYU Utah tickets are super expensive. More expensive than when Kansas came to town, or Baylor, or Arizona, or tech.
It’s clear to me hes more concerned about not looking a gift horse in the mouth (which I understand). I think this contributes to our fan base being overly “positive”, and lacking objective analysis. If there’s one thing I cant stand is when a fanbase becomes a bunch of spastic cheerleaders. If negative things are happening discuss it beyond a "we suck level, or fans constantly jumping to the defense.
Cyclonefanatic sucks a as a discussion board (good for information). Its why I’d rather post here. This board (and its fans) does a much better job of accurately dissecting and dicussing. Thanks for recognizing most of us come in peace. I/we appreciate it.
Without context, it almost sounds like a KU Williams Fund “scam”. I think they changed it, but for years donors would get “points” for attending games, and not just basketball but games for other sports (football). STH’s would pay people to enter/scan tickets to accumulate points for KU basketball tickets/priority status. This resulted in “paid attendance” numbers being greatly inflated for most sports.
Doing it to keep your school in FBS, all on your own? That commitment.
I agree. And because there are Houston fans, ISU fans, BYU fans, and a TCU fan who post regularly you get a wide scope of perspectives that are, for the most part, insightful.
Yeah, this was back in the Dana Dimel days, basically the only reason to go was tailgating. Our Tailgating used to be phenomenal but got ruined by a combo of the new stadiums and previous ADs.
Back then you could get group tickets for like $1-$5. Our tailgate group probably had 100 tickets for 40 people. Then there were random folks who couldn’t make the game and gave us tickets, plus our seating block, etc… So a big group of us just went in and out of the stadium, to rack up the numbers. There was a 4-6 month period when this 15K rule was passed, and it was a legitimate concern. NCAA ended up never enforcing it and just scrapping it altogether.
Sam Houston St. football stadium doesn’t seat 15k and their students voted down a proposal to raise one of their tuiton fees to expand their 14K seat stadium. The way they worked around this is by having one home game a year at NRG Stadium in Houston.
If I recall correctly, the big change was from actual attendance to “paid” attendance. At first they were wanting 15K actual people in the stadium. Then it changed to “paid” tickets, which is easy to game, through sponsors. Then finally they just dropped the rule.
I remember it well. I was in my early 30s in those days.
In the early 2000s under Dimel when we truly hit ROCK bottom, there were a few years that we barely met the requirement.
The rule mostly targeted MAC schools at the time, as well as people like us, but as Hill said, was never enforced and was eventually scrapped.
Hill is right though. The roughly 2000-2012 tailgating scene at the old Robertson Stadium was the best EVER, with the coogfans.com tailgate (yes, there really was such a thing) being the best tailgate of all.
We also had a big “Chug a lug Park” tailgate scene for baseball back in those days as well.
