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There were plenty of southern scourges (some would called traditions) that were vanquished from this Earth.Praise the Lord.

Could someone provide a list of the plenty of Southern scourges that disappeared?

Fried food and chewing tobacco.

Now you got all these southerners eating steamed food and they gave up the stuff between their cheeks.

(why you thought that I was referring to other scourges)

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I am not advocating blowing up the SEC. I am simply stating some historical perspectives and similarities as noted in my previous post on the topic.

The SWC was considered a part of life in Texas at one time too, yet it no longer exists. The PAC 12 is one of the most historical conferences for college football, and now people are looking at whether it might collapse due to falling behind in funding among other issues. Discussions of teams leaving the Pac for the Big 12 do not imply the Pac is a strong conference. Another part of the SWC failure was that “it lost that lovin feelin” if it had it much to begin with.

As far as the family feeling. It is strong between the long standing teams in the SEC, like Florida, Georgia, Tenn, Alabama, LSU. Now they are in different divisions. As to my reference of the MWC. The WAC grew to 16 teams (only 2 more than 14) and many of the teams that were long time members became upset with losing traditionally played games. 5 schools met in an airport and formed the MWC, thus breaking away from the WAC to maintain some past rivalries. It is not unprecedented, for teams to try to keep some of their perceived family group together.

I am not saying the SEC will fall soon or maybe never. I am showing there are trends that if not watched can lead to bad things happening - history can repeat itself. Saying the SEC is immune is a dangerous fallacy. My original comment simply noted similarities between the SWC pre-downfall and the SEC now. It was not a prediction of what definitively will happen.

From what I have seen, those “scourges” are still alive and well all across the traditional SEC footprint.

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Houston has about 2.5 Million people now. That is 4 times the size the biggest SEC town.

In many ways Houston both the city and the University is no longer culturally compatible with any of those one horse towns.

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Actually you have to say 7M metropolitan. SEC towns don’t have a metropolitan unless you count the cows.

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Yes, but most schools have an entire state behind it.

The big 10 is similar.

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Purple, I will concede that the newcomers like Mizzou, aTm, So, Carolina, and Arkansas may feel different and may be less indoctrinated than the original group before adding those teams. But I really based my statement on the original group.

Well, not Tulane :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

I agree based on the original group that are still in the conference.

or Georgia Tech or Sewanee

Why do coaches look elsewhere? They want to be able to compete for a Natty. The system is completely rigged, as we all know.

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That’s why I think our BEST landing spot is the ACC…plenty of city schools to fit in with.

Same with the PAC…but I prefer to head East than west plus the ACC is THE premiere basketball conference and we hope to return to that level, year in and year out!

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I would love that but don’t know the logistics.

Could you imagine?

Please. Don’t tease me. I’m just trying to workout and take a quick lunch break.

There is talk about BYU joining a conference now. They are worried in this new age that getting non conference games scheduled is going to be very difficult.

BYU is in a precarious position. They’re ultra-religious underpinnings make them a non-starter for the PAC 12. Their geography makes them a unappealing for every other P5 league.

They think they are too good for the AAC. If they were to go back to the Mountain West, they’d have to do so hat in hand. Will their pride erode enough over the next few years to join the AAC or MWC? Time will tell.

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Rare agreement with Gadfly. The BYU fans I’ve interacted with would rather keep their regional rivalries than play in the AAC, the conference that is most likely to send a team to the NY6. They left the MWC to go independent and don’t want to return. Also, their TV contract is somewhat comparable to the AACs. BYU schedules a few decent P5s but don’t have a good conference to bolster any success.
Who knows how things shake out in our ‘new reality’. I saw that Boise St furloughed their coaches. ESPN may have their wet dream of a super conference fall in their lap if other schools start falling out. End of CFB

Tulane and Ga. Tech dropped out of SEC in '66 & '64 respectively and Sewanee in 1940. Sewanee was just too small. Tulane and Ga. Tech thought they were too superior academically and Tulane was being kicked around by the big boys of the conference – which at the time meant about everyone but Vandy. Both rue the day they left the SEC.

But the SEC that remained after those 3 departed are rock solid committed, they saw what happened to Tulane and Ga. Tech and don’t want any part of it.

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If I was looking for a job at Goldman Sachs I would rather have a degree from Ga Tech or Tulane than LSU or Ole Miss.

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