Flemings Rank in All Time UH Guards

I know its still early in his career, but just for fun, where would you rank Kingston Flemings as a UH guard? To make it simple, I will include PG and SG as the same. Just from memory, here are some candidates:

  • Don Chaney
  • Louis Dunbar
  • Poo Welch
  • Otis Birdsong
  • Rob Williams
  • Reid Gettys
  • Anthony Goldwire
  • Rob McIver
  • Aubrey Coleman
  • Damyean Dotson
  • Rob Gray
  • Cory Davis Jr.
  • Armoni Brooks
  • Quentin Grimes
  • DeJon Jarreau
  • Marcus Sasser
  • Jamal Shead
  • Emanuel Sharp

In evaluating rankings, I think it is fair to consider the number of years the player contributed to the program.

Early in his career? It’s his last year here!

He gone!

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He’d be the best Guard in UH history if he stayed 4 years, but he’ll be making $10+ million a year in the NBA next year.

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You are WAY under selling Otis Birdsong for one for sure. He only played in SWC for 2 years and was the SWC player of the decade as well as All American and #2 draft pick. He didn’t have 3 point line and shot clock or his numbers would have been even higher.

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If Kingston stayed another year like Birdsong I think they’d be in the same conversation.

But I do think it’s arguable that Kingston is having the best singular year in our guard history.

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I did them from memory chronologically. Birdsong is listed 4 on the list, but he is higher on my true rankings list.

You forgot Gee Gervin

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Yes, I agree. There are lots more. LJ Cryer, Derrick Daniels, Lanny Smith, Dominic Smith, Oliver Lafayette, Ken Ciolli, Cecil Rose, Eddie Cumbo, and on and on.

I’ll take your top 5.

I can’t do 5. My top 3 are Williams, Birdsong and Coleman

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Unfortunately for us, we’re going to be looking at Kingston’s all-time UH legacy (and other players) through the lens of a single season. I’m not sure this era gives us another Emanuel Sharp to break the 3-point record, for example.

Best Freshman I’ve ever seen play for UH.
How far him and the team make it in March Madness will determine his overall guard rank

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Top three G that I saw play at UH:

  1. Otis Birdsong
  2. Louis Dunbar
  3. Rob Williams

Otis played 4 years at UH and Lou and Rob played 3 years each. None played with a 3-point line.

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Best true freshman guard of all time ? Hmmm… That i’ve seen since following UH, yes!

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100% correct! He is a GREAT player, with that said GREAT players get their teams to the final 4 and sometimes beyond. Time will tell how GREAT he is.

Kingston would be up there with Otis if he stayed
He probably goes but this year is really heavy in top recruits and guards for the nba
He would be a top ten pick but not number one
The difference is 5M vs 14M
He’s gonna make more than 1M and get NIL and endorsements if he stays for sure
He has the potential to be a number one pick with one more year under Sampson
That’s a career boost that’s worth delaying entry
IMO. It stays with you forever and places you in a rare elite level

Hard to rank as a one and done but certainly top 10.
As a freshman starter I have him behind Rob Williams and Birdsong.

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Has anyone even mentioned Alvin Franklin?
He was the starting point guard as a freshman on the best Coog team ever.
Not a great shooter but one of the best we have ever had going to the rack and good on defense.

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I saw Franklin play at Clear Lake his Senior year of High school and watched him drop 60 on them. Dude could flat fill it up quick in high school. He was an amazing guard in the paint. In the 84 Final four against Georgetown he was floating them over Ewing no problem. Problem was we had no answer for them down low.

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Yes, I think Alvin was very underrated. He was a local product out of La Marque and good enough to lead PSJ as a freshman…

I rank Flemings as one of the best UH freshmen guards of all time, but one and done, he doesn’t deserve the title of best UH guard of all time.

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