I hate to write this law but you are indeed a troll. You just proved it…AGAIN.
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Exactly
If they want in Texas?
What makes everyone here so sure that they do?
If they did, then they could have gone after UT (which fits their profile far better than UH). Obviously they didn’t, so obviously, being in Texas isn’t a high priority for them.
The truth is NO school in Texas other than UT and (perhaps distantly) aTm would be additive in brand value, an AAU member, and a public #1 or #2 in funding in this state.
Given that both of those schools have already declared for the competition (the SEC), don’t look for them to sniff around in Texas for a school like UH that would NOT fit their profile.
NEVER assume that the B1G wants to be in Texas if it can’t have a school that fits the profile I mentioned (large additive brand, AAU, and, if public, the #1 or #2 best funded in the state).
As a B1G alum and fan (though I’m a much BIGGER Big 12 alum and fan), I often read Illinois and other B1G boards where realignment is sometimes discussed.
I can tell you straight up that neither UH, nor any other Texas school, ever gets brought up as a contender for the B1G.
In fact, I hate to say it, but on both the B1G and MAC boards that I read (I also have a MAC alma mater), UH was the school that people said that they were most surprised was added to the Big 12.
Sorry, but it is what it is, and none of us can change that.
Well…we ALREADY WOKE you up on the following:
- The B1G 10 invited schools in a non- contiguous state (California)
- The B1G 10 invited a non- FOOTBALL power with mediocre attendance (UCLA)
- The B1G 10 Invited Washington and Oregon after YOU SWORE they would not because they mentioned they would not immediately after adding USC + UCLA. We all told you this was leverage.
IF…IF…IF the B1G wants in Texas they have THREE potential candidates
Texas Tech
Houston
Texas Christian
In my mind, they only have two options (Large Public Schools) - TT and UH
IF…IF…IFS and BUTS were cherries and nuts…then we’d all have a Merry Christmas.
Obviously, they are not, so we don’t.
IF…IF…IF…the B1G WANTED a presence in TX, then they’d go after UT or aTm, that is to say, AAU members, #1 or #2 best funded in the state if public, and ADDITIVE athletic brands.
Of course, the fact that they haven’t/don’t suggest that they DO NOT have any interest in TX, so you can stop the silly pipe dream about the B1G coming for UH.
It’s as silly as the fools that once posted that UH was being “vetted” by the B1G on this board.
As I said, read THEIR boards where this topic is discussed. I can tell you straight up that UH never even gets brought up as a possibility.
UH1927 law is a troll. He wants you to engage in that subject. You can’t reason a troll.
A troll will never accept that he/she is wrong.
On the contrary, I’ve already accepted that I was wrong on the points that I mentioned above.
But I will NOT accept that I’m wrong about this until PROVEN so. Given how UNlikely it is that I’ll be proven wrong on this, for the reasons I mentioned…I will rest easy.
That said, has 1927 admitted he was wrong about the other items that I mentioned above?
NOT SO FAR!!!
That tells you all you need to know.
Texas did not want into the B1G.
Texas A&M is not a cultural fit.
Those TWO are not B1G 10 options.
After the Big 12 REJECTED UH at least 3 times in publicly embarrassing fashion, plus numerous times behind closed doors… we STILL had people thinking IF.
Luckily we still have people thinking IF.
LAW is not one of those optimistic thinking people.
How do you figure that?
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They are an AAU member, as are all but one of the B1G schools. Likewise, every expansion team they have ever invited was AAU at the time of invite.
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They are their state’s #1 or #2 best funded public school, as all B1G publics are.
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They are a land grant school, as MANY (a majority of) B1G members are (Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Illinois, Purdue, Michigan State, Minnesota, Rutgers, Maryland)
And most importantly…
They would be a LARGE ADDITIVE BRAND, with football attendance over 100K per game and a large fan following…or at least…far more so than any other TX school except UT would be.
Seems like a perfect cultural fit.
Prove me wrong.
Enough already law. You are wasting everybody’s time.
Remember when you report to work no Taylor Swift tunes. No more tardiness posting trolls post on Coogfans be on time.
Then don’t expect that the B1G will come sniffing for anyone else in TX. Not getting the school they want (UT) doesn’t mean that they will settle instead for a school that is about as UN-B1G-like in profile (such as UH) as there is, simply for the sake of having a school in the state.
Getting into TX is simply NOT … THAT important to the B1G, in and of itself, for make them to go outside their established guidelines.
In the end, Brand size, AAU status, and status as a state’s #1 or #2 best funded public, if public, are the B1G’s major criteria for expansion.
UH lacks ALL of the above.
Funny how you say that while continuing to respond to my posts.
Perhaps you’re wasting my time more than I’m wasting yours.
Give that some thought if you would.
We had the political pull to get in THIS time, which we didn’t in the past (in the past, BAYLOR, a dang private CHURCH school, had the political pull to get in over us…and people wonder why I hold politicians like Bullock and Richards in such contempt…personally, I can’t understand how ANY true blue coogfan WOULDN’T hold them similar contempt, given what they did to UH).
The problem now is…those same TX politicians…that have influence over a conference with a well-established presence in TX (like the Big 12)…and which were able to use that influence to keep us out of the Big 12 in the past, and get us in the Big 12 in the present…have NO comparable political influence over a conference which neither has, nor has ever had a presence in TX (like the B1G).
Given that…don’t look for another similar miracle to occur.
One thing about your Pitt thoughts not being looked at as B1G candidate. B1G has a school in Pennsylvania it’s called Penn State. B1G has no one in Texas . As you say it may stay that way. With the landscape of CFB changing so drastically, no one imo can state confidently what the future holds for any U in CFB. But we all got our ego’s that we need to massage, me, as most of us will deny such motivations, about ourselves
Again…if the B1G wanted a school in TX, it’d go after one of the schools (UT or aTm) that fits its profile and legitimately ADDS VALUE.
If it can’t get a school that does…then merely being in TX obviously isn’t a big enough of priority of theirs to where they’ll disregard their usual guidelines to consider a school like UH.
There’s value to having a footprint in Texas other than just media value.
In the traditional college football paradigm, I agree that a conference like the B1G has no immediate need for a Texas school unless it’s UT. UT is a blue blood in every regard, and even A&M isn’t even in the same tier as UT.
That being said, given the trajectory of the landscape, it might be beneficial to have a foot in Texas, especially a place like Houston for schools to develop relationships here even in the age of NIL. Not every athlete is is worthy of millions of dollars, so recruiting still matters.
Also, UT doesn’t need a conference to solidify or validate their brand. UT could be in any P5 conference and still have the privileges of being UT. Outside of a few other blue blood schools, most football programs are highly dependent on their conference affiliation.
Do I think UH has a future in the P2? Honestly, more than likely no. However, we still can build our brand to improve our chances of that reality. It will take hard work, commitment, and honestly some luck. We also live in an NIL breeding ground that is the city of Houston which UH has yet to be able to establish itself for numerous reasons.
If UH lands in the P2, you bet your butt that NIL would be all over UH. Unfortunately, even the though the Big 12 is by definition a Power conference, we are going to be treated like a G5 conference until the next wave of major realignment.
I agree that we should make an effort to improve our brand. Likewise, I think we need to continue to strive to become AAU.
But I’m not putting money on our brand ever becoming big enough during our lifetimes to attract the B1G.
That would take a type of brand growth that would be nearly unprecedented. That would mean going from a brand size which is probably in the 70s to one in the 20s (based on the B1G’s most recent expansions). Markets alone won’t get you in any more (Rutgers and Maryland likely wouldn’t get invites in today’s brand-centric world). And again…there’s also the reality that the B1G has never taken a state’s THIRD best funded public. It’s taken the second (see UCLA), but NEVER the third.
Given that we’ll probably never have PUF access, becoming the second in this state is probably a pipe dream as well.
If I’m not mistaken or misinformed, didn’t proposition 5 give UH access to the PUF? Or at least plans to?
I think comparing Texas and California to other states is really apples to oranges given we have much more D1 competition compared to schools like Wisconsin or Nebraska. If Texas and A&M moved their campuses to Maryland then you would run into the same issue, and then UH would became the highest funded. Obviously those are unrealistic hypotheticals, but point is that it’s apples to oranges.
That being said, yes it’s probably more unlikely than likely. However, I still believe there is value in having a foot in Texas if the end goal is 2 giant power conferences. Both Texas and Texas A&M will remain SEC schools for the long term. Like I said earlier, UT doesn’t need to be surrounded by academics to validate itself which is why they were okay with joining one of the worst academic conferences in the country, that being the SEC.
The B1G on the other hand, values academics for which we rank higher than both Alabama and LSU and are continuing to improve. So many people on this board want UH to have the same cultural demographic as legacy SEC schools when the reality is that we have more in common with schools like UT given our geographic location.
Big brand schools with lower state populations depend on out-of-state enrollees while Texas schools don’t need to depend on same unless you’re Rice which is the Stanford of the South.
I’m going a bit off topic here, but I agree that it doesn’t make sense RIGHT NOW and hasn’t made sense historically. However, going forward given the trajectory of college sports, it might make sense in the future to add UH to whatever becomes of the B1G as long as UH does its part too.
We aren’t a big brand school, but neither is Maryland or Rutgers (or no offense, UI Urbana). However, we have advantages of being in an attractive recruitment location. Now that the state of Texas is SEC land, the B1G might want to tap into it as well.
No. It doesn’t.
It simply creates a new endowment that funds UH, Tech, UNT, and TX State far better than before.
But that endowment is still far smaller than the PUF, and as it stands now, those schools benefitted by this new fund do not have access to the PUF.