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Seriously?
Futility of airpower alone approach ?
CNN found that Iran has now unblocked 50 out of the 69 tunnel entrances struck by the US and Israel at 18 underground missile facilities.
It seems you really needed to destroy the missles from the ground, but of course that would be at a loss of personnel. Actually, donāt really need to destroy the missles per se but the launchers and with mobile launchers that can go anywhere (but obviously donāt want to be too far from a resupply), that would increase the difficulty. Though thatās just a laymanās perspective.

I canāt believe this āwarā is still not over
Since this war essentially began, he keeps touting the same rhetoric ā āIf Iran doesnāt give us everything we want, then we will have to just finish the job.ā
Then finish the effing jobā¦
They donāt know how. Simple as that. Because it was always going to be a quagmire, hence why no one previously āhad the gutsā to get our wheels stuck in the mud.
Iraq taught usā¦
Thereās money to be made in the continuous delay and targeted ānewsā leaks. Plus, Israel needs the cover to keep doing what they want to do.
I donāt even think this is about ānegotiationsā anymore, if it ever was.
I donāt buy that. Just like I donāt buy that DT doesnāt care about the midterms. Iām sure thereās insider trading going on. Wouldnāt put it past anyone.
That being said, I definitely do think DT is desperate for an off ramp. He doesnāt want to deal with this, but heās also in a battle with his own ego. Heās trying to find a way to make this a victory, when the reality is he will not be able to solve this conflict through diplomacy. This is his legacy at stake.
Thatās why over and over again he keeps talking about how we defeated Iran militarily. Which we did, but he canāt process why defeating Iran militarily didnāt translate to defeating them overall.
The Strait of Hormuz is a major problem, in fact, itās a bigger problem than the non-existent nuclear program that he believes Iran possesses.
Reason is? If Iran gets to keep control of the Strait of Hormuz ā then it will result in 2 scenarios
- No investor will want to invest in oil & gas infrastructure because Iran will be able to either āspike or killā prices by opening/closing the strait
- Iran will be able to keep oil prices globally in a spot that will keep gas prices $4+ in perpetuity, and itās going to CRUSH oil demand in the long term which will hurt the pockets of DTās donors (O&G companies).
I donāt think America really understands how the end of this war is going to change the economy. Many Americans feel the pain at the pump. but they arenāt paying attention (or have the capacity to understand) to the broader issue thatās driving this war.
Iran is going to become the 4th global power if we negotiate a deal.
Otherwise itās either:
- Invade Iran with boots on the ground (thousands will die)
- Nuke Iran to pieces which will also spike oil prices for years
Buy what you want - thereās profit in delay, and thereās no cost to the people taking it.
Again not denying that a select group of people are benefiting from this.
A-holes benefited from 9/11. They benefited from Iraq. They benefited from Afghanistan.
What Iām saying is that DT isnāt delaying the deal for profits. Heās delaying it because he canāt find a way out, even though heās desperate for a way out.
He cares far more about his legacy than short term profits. If he negotiates a deal worse than Obamaās, then his legacy is essentially worthless (not that personally care, just viewing this from his perspective).
I donāt think heās really desperate, though. The ālegacyā thing is a choice, and heās choosing that over more obvious and available outcomes. He doesnāt believe that waiting has a cost, and he has seen the reality of the rewards of just kind of sitting on it while saying that a deal is near.
He doesnāt believe the oil price talk because it hasnāt happened, and I think he and his crew think theyāre in total control of that situation by releasing barrels. They either donāt understand whatās coming, or they think it can be mitigated without too much pain.
Thereās been a way out for weeks. Heās choosing not to take it because he only sees upside in waiting.
Care to explain?
A way out that holds the US as victorious? Or just a mere āway outā ???
First off, we donāt really know what has been offered and discussed between the parties, but there have been mentions of Iran giving up some control of uranium to other countries as well as 10+ year moratoriums, so I believe those were on the table. People would argue over whether that was a ābetter dealā than the one that was torn up, but having the uranium out of the country could easily be sold as being better than trying to manage it with inspectors.
Iran is using the Strait as leverage - I donāt think they really believe they will operate it on a toll system for the long term. They know that the other Gulf nations will eventually blow that up if they try it. The US is forcing them to maintain that position by not budging on the blockade, but getting rid of that and crippling sanctions solves the Hormuz question.
But literal billions of dollars are being made in the meantime, and Israel is provided with cover to do what they want, so here we are.
I highly doubt the US is going to allow other countries get that Uranium. Who? Russia/China? No way.
The toll system may not be a long term deal (they may provide discounts or free access to countries who align themselves with Iranās agenda), but having the ability to open/close the strait at will is very, very bad.
I doubt other Gulf nations are going to want to go to war with Iran, truthfully. Itās unwinnable, and the gulf states rely on foreign investment too much to risk destroying infrastructure.
Thatās my take.
Its a game of chicken with Iran, average Americans get screwed while this administration gets rich. Why would they feel any need to get a deal done when the constant trading is enriching them.
Yes.
The terrorists and wife beaters donāt get their concerns addressed until they stop beating and committing terrorism.
Iām watching this and I think itās going to be a strong argument⦠but LMAO at CNN starting their video montage with a bunch of Iranian propaganda photos lol.
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Then a bunch of unflattering DT pics from bad angles where heās in the middle of talking. Grow up CNN lol.
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He puts too much stock into negotiations with Iran. I have a tough time jumping too deep into that point because Iran doesnāt negotiateā¦
He started on a very very valid point - the stakes are way higher for the Regime. I think itās fair to wait to see how this ends, but itās a miscalculation if they donāt have a response to the current position.