Meanwhile, Iran war

…and you do?

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Seriously?

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Futility of airpower alone approach ?

CNN found that Iran has now unblocked 50 out of the 69 tunnel entrances struck by the US and Israel at 18 underground missile facilities.

It seems you really needed to destroy the missles from the ground, but of course that would be at a loss of personnel. Actually, don’t really need to destroy the missles per se but the launchers and with mobile launchers that can go anywhere (but obviously don’t want to be too far from a resupply), that would increase the difficulty. Though that’s just a layman’s perspective.

I can’t believe this ā€œwarā€ is still not over

Since this war essentially began, he keeps touting the same rhetoric → ā€œIf Iran doesn’t give us everything we want, then we will have to just finish the job.ā€

Then finish the effing job…

They don’t know how. Simple as that. Because it was always going to be a quagmire, hence why no one previously ā€œhad the gutsā€ to get our wheels stuck in the mud.

Iraq taught us…

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There’s money to be made in the continuous delay and targeted ā€œnewsā€ leaks. Plus, Israel needs the cover to keep doing what they want to do.

I don’t even think this is about ā€œnegotiationsā€ anymore, if it ever was.

I don’t buy that. Just like I don’t buy that DT doesn’t care about the midterms. I’m sure there’s insider trading going on. Wouldn’t put it past anyone.

That being said, I definitely do think DT is desperate for an off ramp. He doesn’t want to deal with this, but he’s also in a battle with his own ego. He’s trying to find a way to make this a victory, when the reality is he will not be able to solve this conflict through diplomacy. This is his legacy at stake.

That’s why over and over again he keeps talking about how we defeated Iran militarily. Which we did, but he can’t process why defeating Iran militarily didn’t translate to defeating them overall.

The Strait of Hormuz is a major problem, in fact, it’s a bigger problem than the non-existent nuclear program that he believes Iran possesses.

Reason is? If Iran gets to keep control of the Strait of Hormuz → then it will result in 2 scenarios

  1. No investor will want to invest in oil & gas infrastructure because Iran will be able to either ā€˜spike or kill’ prices by opening/closing the strait
  2. Iran will be able to keep oil prices globally in a spot that will keep gas prices $4+ in perpetuity, and it’s going to CRUSH oil demand in the long term which will hurt the pockets of DT’s donors (O&G companies).

I don’t think America really understands how the end of this war is going to change the economy. Many Americans feel the pain at the pump. but they aren’t paying attention (or have the capacity to understand) to the broader issue that’s driving this war.

Iran is going to become the 4th global power if we negotiate a deal.

Otherwise it’s either:

  1. Invade Iran with boots on the ground (thousands will die)
  2. Nuke Iran to pieces which will also spike oil prices for years

Buy what you want - there’s profit in delay, and there’s no cost to the people taking it.

Again not denying that a select group of people are benefiting from this.

A-holes benefited from 9/11. They benefited from Iraq. They benefited from Afghanistan.

What I’m saying is that DT isn’t delaying the deal for profits. He’s delaying it because he can’t find a way out, even though he’s desperate for a way out.

He cares far more about his legacy than short term profits. If he negotiates a deal worse than Obama’s, then his legacy is essentially worthless (not that personally care, just viewing this from his perspective).

I don’t think he’s really desperate, though. The ā€œlegacyā€ thing is a choice, and he’s choosing that over more obvious and available outcomes. He doesn’t believe that waiting has a cost, and he has seen the reality of the rewards of just kind of sitting on it while saying that a deal is near.

He doesn’t believe the oil price talk because it hasn’t happened, and I think he and his crew think they’re in total control of that situation by releasing barrels. They either don’t understand what’s coming, or they think it can be mitigated without too much pain.

There’s been a way out for weeks. He’s choosing not to take it because he only sees upside in waiting.

Care to explain?

A way out that holds the US as victorious? Or just a mere ā€œway outā€ ???

First off, we don’t really know what has been offered and discussed between the parties, but there have been mentions of Iran giving up some control of uranium to other countries as well as 10+ year moratoriums, so I believe those were on the table. People would argue over whether that was a ā€œbetter dealā€ than the one that was torn up, but having the uranium out of the country could easily be sold as being better than trying to manage it with inspectors.

Iran is using the Strait as leverage - I don’t think they really believe they will operate it on a toll system for the long term. They know that the other Gulf nations will eventually blow that up if they try it. The US is forcing them to maintain that position by not budging on the blockade, but getting rid of that and crippling sanctions solves the Hormuz question.

But literal billions of dollars are being made in the meantime, and Israel is provided with cover to do what they want, so here we are.

I highly doubt the US is going to allow other countries get that Uranium. Who? Russia/China? No way.

The toll system may not be a long term deal (they may provide discounts or free access to countries who align themselves with Iran’s agenda), but having the ability to open/close the strait at will is very, very bad.

I doubt other Gulf nations are going to want to go to war with Iran, truthfully. It’s unwinnable, and the gulf states rely on foreign investment too much to risk destroying infrastructure.

That’s my take.

Its a game of chicken with Iran, average Americans get screwed while this administration gets rich. Why would they feel any need to get a deal done when the constant trading is enriching them.

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Yes.

The terrorists and wife beaters don’t get their concerns addressed until they stop beating and committing terrorism.

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I’m watching this and I think it’s going to be a strong argument… but LMAO at CNN starting their video montage with a bunch of Iranian propaganda photos lol.

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Then a bunch of unflattering DT pics from bad angles where he’s in the middle of talking. Grow up CNN lol.

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He puts too much stock into negotiations with Iran. I have a tough time jumping too deep into that point because Iran doesn’t negotiate…

He started on a very very valid point - the stakes are way higher for the Regime. I think it’s fair to wait to see how this ends, but it’s a miscalculation if they don’t have a response to the current position.