Moving to electric vehicles will dull recessions currently inflated by oil

Well stated post. I would find an EV great to have, as you noted, I am not against them. The EV system just does not support people without garages or those that drive extensively in different routes. Plus the incentive options support wealthier people.

That goes back to giving money to businesses to help build infrastructure. Give the money to a restaurant to install a charging station. I think the greater Houston area has over 12,000 restaurants. If each one put in 1-4 spots. A person could charge on their lunch break or when out at dinner and it makes it much more usable for the masses. Now add in grocery stores for another 10 charge spots. Now we are starting to get to where people can charge regularly doing normal things. This would also help with what you (3rdWard) mentioned about transportation methods staying the same. It makes less of a lifestyle change on the switch.

Locations could also make money off the chargers for long run.

Some money could also go to power lines and production. That though is upping the money spent budget. I do think production needs to increase, but spreading out charging so people do a little here and there, plus at night for those that can, and it would be feasible.

edit - sorry to all for such a long post. Trying to work on that.

Exactly. I am 100% for Ev’s. But it is still not practical on a full scale. We are not there yet. Not one single individual has the right(s) to impose their will into someone’s will. You do that? This is called a dictatorship.
I 100% prefer to drive an EV. It is faster when you get into traffic. It is quieter. The clean side of it never takes in consideration the coal running power plants and the battery disposable side to it.
More importantly the main factors going against EV’s are:
Time to recharge vs a gas pump.
Car cost
Battery replacement cost vs used cars cost.
The new G.M’s EV’s are awesome same with Tesla etc.
Towing is still not there. Huge issues in the construction industry. Hopefully will soon.

Yea, something like a freshman dorm mandate comes to mind.

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Probably the top two reasons I like EVs. I live near a freeway and people thinking super loud engines are cool, is great for them, but not pushing it on to everyone else.

This is the problem with EVs.

As I’ve said before, Americans have an expectation for EVs to replace ICE vehicles on a like for like basis.

It’s not possible.

There will have to be necessary lifestyle changes in order for a nationwide embrace of EVs, otherwise, this project shift to EVs will never take place.

RoboTaxis are live in Austin.

The shift is already taking place and at a sustainable pace. Charging infrastructure
is being built out daily in the US. It will take place over time and all the data
bears this out - even in the US. So I don’t get what you are looking at.

I fully expect apartment dwellers to have charging infrastructure available to them
as well as the steady march of change progresses. Sure, higher end luxury complexes will be the first to get them, but it will trickle down to the lower end units
over the next 10-20 years. I get the impression you think the EV revolution will happen overnight. That’s not how new technology emergence takes over. Think of it like when air conditioning came into being. At first only the wealthy had it at home. Gradually window AC units emerged that less wealthy could afford. Today almost every home built has a central AC unit. Same with AC in cars.

People have substantial investments in ICE vehicles and will continue to use them
until maintenance costs and reliability become too great and they are ready for a new car. It plays over longer period of time. Heck I usually keep my vehicles for at least 10 years.

The growth seems to be happening as it should, so I don’t get the constant hand wringing over lack of charging infrastructure when data shows it growing.

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Where is this infrastructure taking place?

All over the place, Walmart just announced they are adding chargers to most of their location for example.

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We recently stayed at a Hilton Hotel and saw that they had 3 charging stations .

No doubt we will see a continuing buildout of EV charging stations.

EVs in California about to skyrocket.

ā€˜Cannot do business in the state of California’: Gas prices could hit $8/gallon as two refineries shut down

Speaking of charger infrastructure…que Back to the Future meme

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Why do you live near a freeway?

And investigations already underway of erratic
driving videos showing cars speeding and veering into wrong lane ?!?!

One video – posted by a Tesla investor who formerly hosted a podcast about the company – showed the Robotaxi wobbling as it misjudged a left turn, then going into a lane meant for oncoming traffic before driving across a double yellow line back into the correct lane.

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https://x.com/Jalopnik/status/1937626274073084104

Hundreds Of Unsold Teslas Evicted From Detroit Parking Lot By Court Order

If you watch the actual video it was no big deal, but of course it made the media rounds.

Automotive News. At their peak, there were 204 Teslas being kept in that mall’s parking lot, waiting for fools to buy them. Right now, it’s not clear where the vehicles ended up being

lol, unbiased reporting. what kind of feeds are you guys getting?

It says it is being investigated. Lets see what the investigation by NHSTA concludes before calling it no big deal. It’s only been 2 days.

In addition to its preliminary inquiry into the Robotaxis, the NHTSA also has an open investigation into Tesla, begun in 2024, over whether the automaker’s ā€œFull-Self Drivingā€ mode is safe during conditions that reduce roadway visibility. A Tesla allegedly using the autonomous feature struck and killed a 71-year-old woman in 2023 while the sun was setting and casting glare over the road in Arizona.

This is the reason you don’t attempt FSD with only using cameras as visible sensors.

Cybertrucks are piling up all over the country in lots. Yes, fools buy cybertrucks just like the fools who bought an Aztek, the proof is inventory is piling up, they are not liked by the average person.

There is an estimate of over 1000 cybertrucks stored in mall parking lots. Tesla reportedly has a backlog of ~10,000 unsold Cybertrucks, contributing to overflow stockpiles in locations like Indiana and Missouri.

You guys are funny, Tesla is a direct sales manufacturer, that means there aren’t a bunch of dealerships to keep the stock, so its centralized. Compared to other legacy manufacturers, stock is 'hidden" in dealer lots. Nice way to spin it though, to make Tesla look bad. Check out how many Ford F150s are unsold, over 100,000! Oh no, fools are buying F150s!