You do realize that a plug in level 2:charger can use an electric dryer outlet, right? Those are common and easy to install. The renter can then just take their charger with them. Like I said, electricity is everywhere. Easy to install. Unlike gas stations that require underground tanks that leak forever chemicals into out drinking water or the supercooled hydrogen gas stations. Those are the only two alternatives. In which case EV charging is easy enough to scale, the only issue is demand. We live in a capitalist society, if the demand is there some one will provide it.
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Read today that 500 k used EVs hit the market in 2026 and double that in 2027. Most are coming off lease
Your right, I see my issue. I am not parking my car upstairs in my living room where I have access to a plug or dryer outlet. I am still using the parking lot where there is no dryer.
PS: “Residents are generally not allowed to make permanent changes to the electrical system without the landlord’s permission, as these changes are considered fixtures and become the property of the landlord upon leaving the apartment.”
PSS. You do realize that my argument / issue has nothing to do with EV vs ICE right? Not sure why you are even bringing in gas tanks and hydrogen.
I do think the used market will be interesting to watch. I am curious if cars become more “disposable” or not. Used value will become a big factor as to how it compares to used ICE vehicles.
At this time, even with infrastructure to charge, I would not touch a used EV unless it was really cheap. Main reason is that batteries in these cars now in the used market are only designed to last 100,000 to maybe 200,000 miles if they are properly charged (20-80% charge cycles) (a lease car owner probably is not worried about longevity of the battery). Buy a used EV and be one of the ones that only last to 125,000 would really suck as they would be between $5000- $20,000+ to replace. Tesla batteries start at about $10,000 to replace.
A quick search showed an engine replacement in a toyota averages $3000-6,000 assuming it can’t just be fixed, and with proper care can easily last over 300,000 miles.
Not sure how newer battery technology will hold up. I do not know if research is focusing more on fast charge, long drive distance, lowering cost, or life span? I would be surprised if life span was high on the list as car manufacturers do not profit from the used car market.
Then why dos the government need to give tax breaks for people to buy them?
We do not live in a true capitalist society.
How many times do you want to hear the same answers to the same questions?
We get it. You don’t like the tax breaks. They have been explained ad nauseum. So has everything else.
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You admit you don’t know much about it but you sure have some strong opinions on it, which is fine, we’ll keep trying to educate you. The point is that any electrician can install a 220 industry standard plug just about anywhere, so that’s not the big deal you’re crying about.
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Would say sorry your offended someone does not like your tax rebate, but I’m not. I even stopped using the W word and replaced it with a factual top 15% just for you. That post was in response to Norbert and his silly comments. If demand was there, this thread would not exist.
Whether I like tax rebates or not really isn’t my point - just yours. It is about EV adoption rates and the actual thread topic as it pertains to sales of EVs. The US is way behind other major countries in adoption rates. My point being the money would have been better spent on infrastructure, as all top adoption countries have been doing - improve infrastructure. Instead it was tax rebates, some state wide laws and letting people buy their own chargers. All the while guessing why there are not more low cost EVs.
There have been a couple useful replies with NRG’s legal efforts being useful, Mandell’s on local apartments (which got me curious to go out a look again), V’s used car post which leads to many good info possibilities. Though I think they still would prefer to live in the quiet blissful world of not caring about the average and lower income like you thinking that we are progressing nicely in EV adoption rates because a renter can buy their own charging unit and pay for the installation for the apartment complex.
No matter - no one here has given comprehensive reasons on why the US is so far behind other countries on EVs and seem to be unwilling to approach a reason they do not like so just post random complaints, occasional links which may or may not address the issue, imply the US is doing great at it, or simply assume it is some anti-EV post.
Please give me a version for a 3 year old to explain how putting a level 2 charger by my dryer will allow me to charge my EV when I am on the top floor of a building and my car is on a first floor parking lot hundreds of feet away.
Maybe stop thinking like a three year old and imagine what apartment charging would actually look like? Here’s some help if you need it.
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EV dominance is closer than people realize. (Sidenote still true if it turns out donut is full of it as others are only a couple years away)
At least in places other than the US.
I still believe once those solid and semi-solid batteries are ubiquitous then EVs will dominate the US as well.
Thanks to the Iran conflict, EV adoption is soaring, even for the hated Teslas…
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/02/business/tesla-sales-electric-vehicles.html
Tesla Sales Rise as $4-a-Gallon Gas Revives Interest in E.V.s
The repeal of tax credits last year sent electric vehicle sales plummeting. But with gas prices soaring, consumers are taking another, cautious, look.
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Possibly one of the only good positives of this conflict
Perhaps the American people will finally realize why we must transition away from fossil fuels
This is my favorite thread.
After the F-150 debacle it looks like Ford may finally figure it out.
I sold all but one share of Palantir at $170. It’s sliding down into the 120’s. Since I bought at 48, it will be a long time before I buy it again. Besides Anthropic has been invading their turf.