Musk says X is considering removing likes, reposts from content

It is not horrible. But (imo) certain threads definitely become a semblance of a 5 on 1 or 6 on 2 echo chamber…often. And predictably, with majority sometimes going into over kill mode even if the view they are are opposing should be contested, sometimes too many (unnecessary) victory laps.

So i agree to some degree, but not completely. My guess is you might feel differently about that if you’re werent regularly in the 5 or the 6 side of the equation.

And to be clear, an echo chamber can certainly be “right/correct”. That doesn’t change the numeric imbalance (logical or not).

So now we can’t like folks who contest posts that the earth is flat …because you
think it’s taking victory laps ? And if the likes are 6 vs 2, or greater, that’s bad …in your point of view ?

I think I prefer the existing system with accountability.

Maybe this would be a good opportunity to do an anonymous flat earth poll on coog fans.

Yeah, far too much arguing going on for this to be considered anything approaching that.

People do jump on relatively extreme views but that’s to be expected.

I’d argue that it is healthy, and hopefully the people on the short end would use it
as motivation to go back and re-examine their foundational pillars . That’s not saying the majority
is always right, and might makes right. But at very least should be a wake up call.

The whole premise here seems to be that - identifying likes is suppressing timid voices. Therefore it’s not fair or accurately reflects positions.

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The failure of Truth Social, an example of an echo chamber, is evidence that people with extreme views want to spend their time trolling those who disagree. Most of the trolls still take to X, IG, and FB. They see themselves as hunters, not gatherers.

That’s exactly circling back to my perspective in advocating for at least having the anonomys like as an option.

Because in doing so, you might find out that 6 v 2 “consensus” becomes 8 v 19. And if that were to ocurr, maybe those 8 might then be motivated (perhaps even sometimes condescendingly by multiple participants in the discussion here) to "re-examine their OWN foundational pillars.

I accept that I am definitely appearing to be in the minority here. That could be because all of you are indeed make better points than I’m making. It could also be otherwise and wouldn’t necessarily hold true elsewhere.

I continue to contend that a mob isn’t always best equipped to reach accurate conclusions about the extent of their numbers in the big picture. And because of that, maybe any mob should recognize that multiple victory laps (not likes) appear to be unnecessary.

Feel free to have the 5 or 6 last words! :wink:

Are you calling us a mob? If so, it makes what you were saying about the Xitter mobs seem pretty innocuous.

I’m just waiting for you to do an anonymous coog fans poll.
Suggested topics -

The Earth is flat
Moon landings were fake
Man made climate change is a hoax
holocaust was fake
2020 election was rigged
anonymous likes are better
etc

Well, not intended in a horrible or literal sense. Not anywhere close to that.

But yes, in a playful way to reach out in a friendly way to just possibly help to recognize it.

It may be 4 or 5 v 1 here, but it is that group of 4 or 5 that tend to respond in what some could perceive to be a semblance of an echo chamber. Not the responses are meaning to do so in any way shape or form.

Definitely saying though that a vote here of 6 to 1 obviously shouldn’t embolden anyone.

Come on bud, repeating that now multiple times is going overboard. Can you try to recognize how that can appear to you associating my id with things I may not support at all?

I do expect more respect (and fairness) than that.

And I have no interest in creating a poll for even this discussion topic, much less more polarizing conspiracy theories.

No one is emboldened. People are giving their opinion.

Mobs attack. You aren’t being attacked. This is what dialogue looks like (and credit to you for doing your part). When you use words like mob to describe what’s happening here, it really makes me question what you’re protecting grandma from on Xitter. Dialogue is a good thing even if you’re in the minority.

And this is one issue over 24 hours. Go look at other threads on the economy and say this an echo chamber. Or go look at a discussion on Israel or EVs.

Yes, I’ve read them all. Perceptions may be different from yours.

You think the discussions on the economy, EVs, and Israel look like echo chambers?

Not quite, but some do trend to be imbalanced to some degree (imo). And I don’t post in them (made an exception here) because many of them go like that.

Imbalance doesn’t equal echo chamber.

And i really think calling those discussing this issue with you a mob is pretty unfair.

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I apologize if my reference to (very real) mob behavior was incorrectly correlating in full to the behavior here.

Yet, you have stated your position repeatedly that identifying likes are not “fair” and possibly
inaccurate. Sorry if you think I was associating your ID with conspiracy theories. I’ve done polls
on conspiracy theories here before and the ratio was about 1:4 . I had no fear of retribution or
a mob coming to burn down my house ( your example). It was ID based, so I’d be curious if being anonymous would change the results.

Coogfans supposedly has hundreds of accounts and stats say there 400-500 active users.
My sense is that there are maybe 30-50 active users posting on the entire site (probably much less). I’d be curious if your contention that Unidentifiable Likes are better/fairer/more accurate is the position of the larger silent majority on coogfans. Nothing controversial about that. Coogfans is a good toolto test your beliefs, as it seems the thread so far is about 6:1 against the idea. Just a great opportunity for you.

I don’t know that I would call that an echo chamber but ok.

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I think he is misusing the term echo chamber.

Objecting to being in the minority is what it’s boiling down to me.

Because it MAY be a reversed outcome if only the likes could by anonymous. And feels sorry
that a poster gets slammed 100:1 . It’s unfair. The silent majority is scared of retribution too so
they don’t participate.

I don’t accept those beliefs. But I agree there may be a very very small number of people that
feel that way. Or they just can’t accept being defeated in a like tally.

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Disagree, but all I can do is suggest a perspective and I’ve done so here. With results that aren’t horrible at all, but (imo) do line up with the very perspective I was trying to share.

No doubt, a failed attempt.