OT: Another qb our friends in Austin turned down

No space with the QB room full of his sons.

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LT had major grade issues. Was he a partial qualifier?

Hindsight is 20/20.

Clay and Tyson Helton. Clay was a few years older than Tyson, but both QB’d at UH and played for their dad. Unremarkably.

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In some aspects we’ve never recovered either from the Helton error

Program has yet to put together consistency on the field and in staff retention

He set things back that far but some still want to make excuses for him

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That he used scholarships on


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Never forget Kim and Dana!!! (Dimel)

The further away we get from those years the fainter their memories, and the less they get lambasted on here. We have to keep the history alive so that we never see anything like that happen EVER again.

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I think we recovered from Helton. Think of all the g5 level programs that fought like Hell to escape those conferences. I think we recovered because of the hires we made. Briles-Sumlin-Herman were all good hires that put us on a trajectory to grow out of our circumstances. Its our alums that have dropped the ball. Every year the school sends thousands out into the workforce but I’ll bet only a tiny fraction ever “bought” a ticket to s sporting event.

Recruiting pipelines come from relationships. I think Sumlin and Herman tried.

If you’re saying based on recruiting only maybe you’re right. But we have recovered.

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Consistent perception of the program suffered highly under Helton and is ilk
Dimel didnt help much - esp w the O-fer season

For all the fans that had to endure the Helton and Dimel years, y’all have my utmost respect.

I started being fan during my freshman year in 2008 when Sumlin came here and the only bad coaches I had to endure was Levine and Applewhite.

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Personally, I had the good fortune of becoming a Coog fan (as a new student) during "the dark years, "so my expectations of UH football and the game day experience were very low. I had a blast with my friends tailgating with diehards, and getting our run (“for free”) of a relatively empty stadium. When Briles showed up with Kolb, it was incredibly exciting and the whole program was so “under the radar” and security so lax that the East Side was absolutely beast and it was as much a party as a football game. I believe it had to have been much tougher for thise who had seen UH play great football.

These days Im in my 40s and bring my kids and Im excited that football is the primary attraction at TDECU. But
bad football didnt keep us from having some unforgettable times.

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I remember my fandom started with Keenum and then went to O’Korn, Ward, King, Tune etc

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Concur.

The Helton and Dimel years were really brutal.

I hope that we never return to that level.

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AD Bill Carr during that time was in over his head.

They heard your concerns so this year with our 8 commits
7 are from Texas, 5 of which are from the greater Houston area and 1 from Oklahoma

To say the least

Goofball too

You forgot Holgorsen

I don’t like CDH just like many of the posters here.

I personally didn’t live through the Helton and Dimel years as I was born in the 90s but CDH is way above those 2 coaches in terms of success at UH.

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Helton won a conference title one year and held his own against a tough schedule.

Helton was a mega failure here and was hired at UH because our AD (at the time) was his college roommate. That and the UH administration’s then misguided attitude and over-reaction of trying to distance UH (as far as possible) from the Run & Shoot era’s excitement was just such an ignorant blunder (similar to the misguided attitudes of the current administrations at Cal Berkley and Stanford).

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Helton was great on the radio as Love Coach, much less great as UH Coach

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